Not Quittin' Smoking

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Re: Not Quittin' Smoking

Post: #238335 TheGoodEarth
Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:35 pm

This stuff sounds amazing, what does it do for you? What are the benefits?
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Re: Not Quittin' Smoking

Post: #238336 southeast-isher
Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:55 pm

TheGoodEarth wrote:This stuff sounds amazing, what does it do for you? What are the benefits?


We enjoy it! Like you maybe enjoy a coffee or two.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20414766

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7497037.stm

http://www.forces.org/evidence/hamilton/other/oldest.htm

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Re: Not Quittin' Smoking

Post: #238338 TheGoodEarth
Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:11 pm

Thanks for the links. However I don't see how this is a benefit.

"Professor Clive Ballard, of the Alzheimer's Society, said: "Although nicotine has therapeutic qualities, when it is absorbed through smoking the health risks outweigh the benefits.

"Smoking increases risk of vascular dementia, the second most common form of dementia and is associated with a number of other health risks. "

???????????
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Re: Not Quittin' Smoking

Post: #238340 MKG
Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:17 pm

TheGoodEarth wrote:Thanks for the links. However I don't see how this is a benefit.

"Professor Clive Ballard, of the Alzheimer's Society, said: "Although nicotine has therapeutic qualities, when it is absorbed through smoking the health risks outweigh the benefits.

"Smoking increases risk of vascular dementia, the second most common form of dementia and is associated with a number of other health risks. "

???????????


I emphasised the important bit.

Apart from which I think I could perfectly truthfully say much the same kind of thing about cream cakes and the automobile.

Even so, no-one is arguing about the deleterious effects of smoking, but more the possible benefits of replacing it with a sllghtly less harmful habit.

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Re: Not Quittin' Smoking

Post: #238342 southeast-isher
Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:24 pm

It's about harm reduction not quit or die. No one is suggesting a non-smoker take up the habit - hence the title of the thread.
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Re: Not Quittin' Smoking

Post: #238343 southeast-isher
Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:25 pm

TheGoodEarth wrote:Thanks for the links. However I don't see how this is a benefit.


I suspected you were being disingenuous.

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Re: Not Quittin' Smoking

Post: #238359 southeast-isher
Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:05 am

Boboff, you need to store all your snus in the fridge.

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Re: Not Quittin' Smoking

Post: #238362 boboff
Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:45 am

OK thanks! In my Man drawer at the minute!
Millymollymandy wrote:Bloody smilies, always being used. I hate them and they should be banned.
No I won't use a smiley because I've decided to turn into Boboff, as he's turned all nice all of a sudden. Grumble grumble.

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Re: Not Quittin' Smoking

Post: #238385 southeast-isher
Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:42 am

Okay well put them in the fridge. They will be much fresher that way. And if you have more than say 2 open put the rest in the freezer. (when you come to defrost them put them in the fridge to defrost)

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Re: Not Quittin' Smoking

Post: #238443 southeast-isher
Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:59 pm

What i say to people is if you can give up tobacco then do it, with no hesistation. But it's not quite that easy so instead of possibly condemning yourself to a life of misery i like to let people know there are (much) less harmful alternatives out there. But quitting or preferably not starting in the first place is no doubt the healthiest option.

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Re: Not Quittin' Smoking

Post: #238468 boboff
Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:29 am

Agreed, I am the same about Radish, I just wish I hadn't been forced into that first nibble!
Millymollymandy wrote:Bloody smilies, always being used. I hate them and they should be banned.
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Re: Not Quittin' Smoking

Post: #238591 southeast-isher
Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:13 pm

Hey Boboff, is snus isn't your thing maybe nasal snuff is more up your street? Just saw they ran a story on it in the Daily Mail a while back and even they endorse it!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1077556/Snorting-snuff-enjoying-renaissance-credit-crunch-victims-money-smoke.html

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Re: Not Quittin' Smoking

Post: #238625 boboff
Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:56 am

Thanks, but I am forever picking as it is, doing it and getting brown bits, would not be condusive to a happy marraige.

Well I managed a day on the Snus, and not smoking, it was actually fine. Just need to get used to changing them more often, having "void" periods etc etc.

Sat here now with Tea, no early morning fag, and no Snus as yet, Ah well lets see how it goes.

Nature has really helped in that yesterday I noticed the Golden Virginia has really come on strong!
Millymollymandy wrote:Bloody smilies, always being used. I hate them and they should be banned.
No I won't use a smiley because I've decided to turn into Boboff, as he's turned all nice all of a sudden. Grumble grumble.

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Re: Not Quittin' Smoking

Post: #238632 southeast-isher
Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:28 am

When you quit cigarettes and go on nicotine patches etc they tell you to chuck your fags and lighters away in the evening and have your last smoke at night then wake up and start with a patch on. Well, when switching to snus it is a lot more relaxed. The amount of nicotine you get is not less like it is with patches etc so with snus you can flit between the two quite easily at first until you are ready to snus all the way should you decide that's what you want to do. It is supposed to be fun. Not like when you switch to those patches which don't give you the MAOIs!

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Re: Not Quittin' Smoking

Post: #238637 boboff
Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:19 am

Agreed, and thanks again.

Where do you get yours from? Again being new and not knowing what I will use, I now have started the wondering when I will run out and how long it takes to get more, and I have heard customs can impound deliveries etc etc.

I have decided I prefer the strong mint big bags!
Millymollymandy wrote:Bloody smilies, always being used. I hate them and they should be banned.
No I won't use a smiley because I've decided to turn into Boboff, as he's turned all nice all of a sudden. Grumble grumble.

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