Kitchen scraps in compost bins

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Kitchen scraps in compost bins

Post: #284062 happyhippy
Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:01 pm

We've just had notification that we are now not permitted to add kitchen scraps to our allotment bins.Someone apparently reported seeing a rat on the lottie site.We have two plastic bin type compost bins which are partly submerged in the soil.Ok so how does this work?No kitchen scraps allowed,but we ARE allowed to add waste veg/foliage from the plots.Not to mention rats have also apparently nibbled the tops of veg (carrots etc)that are still in the ground?So we don't take kitchen scraps to the lotties?The rats are still going to eat off the plots?Jeez any more rules added to our site and I think I'll tell them where to shove it haha

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Re: Kitchen scraps in compost bins

Post: #284065 Flo
Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:36 am

Rats will eat anything that's left around even if it's vegetables. The rats won't come just for kitchen scraps. We have pigeon lofts on our allotments as well as hen keepers. They run bait boxes as the rats will eat their pigeon and poultry food.

I suspect that you have other attractions for rats that will come from fields and houses to forage. To keep the sites clear tell your rule makers you need bait boxes and ask to have them installed as soon as possible.

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Re: Kitchen scraps in compost bins

Post: #284067 happyhippy
Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:52 am

Thanks Flo,I could suggest the bait boxes but I expect the council will deem them a health and safety matter!We don't have room in our back garden for a compost bin either so it now looks like my daily veg/fruit scraps will be going to landfill.Our council have just announced that they will be charging for the green wheelie bins to be emptied from June this year! £40 per bin?????? We're getting rid of ours just on principle!

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Re: Kitchen scraps in compost bins

Post: #284068 Flo
Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:20 pm

Contact your environmental officer who will declare your rats a health and safety hazard.

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Re: Kitchen scraps in compost bins

Post: #284071 ina
Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:20 pm

First of all, they should define kitchen scraps. Mine are almost 100% fruit and veg peel, leftovers etc... So - if I eat an apple in the garden, the core is not kitchen scrap, but if I eat it at home it is? That would not make sense! I could understand if they say "no meat, no bones etc"...
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Re: Kitchen scraps in compost bins

Post: #284072 Flo
Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:56 am

Same problem here with the garden waste bins when they say no kitchen scraps. So if you sit in the garden to peel potatoes, shell peas, chop up cabbage then the waste is garden waste and otherwise, if done in the kitchen?

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Re: Kitchen scraps in compost bins

Post: #284075 baldybloke
Mon Mar 23, 2015 1:50 pm

The best strategy is to put some wire mesh under the bins. This will allow the worms in but prevent anything bigger. Second the comment about no meat and bones.
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Re: Kitchen scraps in compost bins

Post: #284076 diggernotdreamer
Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:32 pm

one word - bokashi

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Re: Kitchen scraps in compost bins

Post: #284079 Green Aura
Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:49 pm

I've been thinking that too, dnd, but I'm not sure it gets over the original problem - I'm guessing that even fermented kitchen scraps will be banned. So unless hh has a garden to use them in her em fermented scraps may still have to go in the bin. :(
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Re: Kitchen scraps in compost bins

Post: #284081 diggernotdreamer
Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:41 pm

from what I understand, you can add the ferment straight into the soil, so you can just dig a hole, bury they stuff and then it can add to the soil and bypass the bin completely, and it is supposed not to be attractive to rats once it has gone through the fermentation.

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Re: Kitchen scraps in compost bins

Post: #284082 Green Aura
Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:40 pm

Absolutely. My concern is whether the allotment powers that be would see it that way, that's my point. Unless they're fully conversant with how bokashi works they will continue to blame the kitchen scraps for the problem.

It would be worth checking out if they'd allow it before setting it up - it can be quite expensive. It seems ridiculous that perfectly good composting materials are going to landfill though.
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Re: Kitchen scraps in compost bins

Post: #284083 diggernotdreamer
Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:19 pm

The world has gone bonkers, we had some guff from the waste people to say you can't put coffee grounds into the compost bin and they have to go into the special bucket to be taken away by them. Why?? I don't know, hordes of rats hyped up looking for a caffeine fix?

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Re: Kitchen scraps in compost bins

Post: #284084 Green Aura
Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:06 am

Is someone buying it from them for mushroom farming? Quite the big thing at the moment. :lol:
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Re: Kitchen scraps in compost bins

Post: #284085 ina
Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:36 pm

diggernotdreamer wrote:The world has gone bonkers, we had some guff from the waste people to say you can't put coffee grounds into the compost bin and they have to go into the special bucket to be taken away by them. Why?? I don't know, hordes of rats hyped up looking for a caffeine fix?


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Unless they start giving valid reasons for their strange demands, I'd just refuse... Don't they realise that if they make up these weird rules people will just stop using separate collections, and it will all go back into the "normal" bin?
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Re: Kitchen scraps in compost bins

Post: #284086 Skippy
Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:56 pm

From last year we have been told not to put kitchen waste in our garden waste bin ,not that it really effected us as most of our waste went into our own compost bin. The council's reason was that removing kitchen waste allowed the garden waste to be open air composted rather than having to have it heat treated to kill off potentially harmful bacteria. Reducing their rat problem was also mentioned. Strange thing in my eyes though was that we were told that home composting was still ok so presumably it doesn't matter if our own compost is full of nasties. Food waste is now to be put in the general waste bin which goes for incineration which generates electricity. Oddly though sawdust shouldn't go in either bin we have been told.


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