badger or fox?

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badger or fox?

Post: #257457 matowakan
Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:25 am

Hello,
For the past few weeks something keeps digging holes trying to get into the chickens. Whatever it is has moved some large stones put outside as a deterrant all the way round. I have read the other post entitled fox? so now woner if it is a fox or a badger both of which we have out here in rural Dorset. Not sure what to do. Would paving slabs all round be a deterrant do you think?

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Re: badger or fox?

Post: #257462 boboff
Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:51 am

Umm, I think with either you will struggle to keep them out without shooting or electric, or luck.

You could try lightinig it up, leaving a Radio on etc, but I have found once they know of a food source they will keep on coming back.

Hope its ok.
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Re: badger or fox?

Post: #257465 bill1953
Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:20 pm

I'd put money on a fox.
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Re: badger or fox?

Post: #257482 matowakan
Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:41 pm

I have thought of solar powered lights.At the mo I have just put chicken wire all around the bottom of the aviary out to a depth of 3 feet with stones on top and see how we fare.

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Re: badger or fox?

Post: #257497 oldjerry
Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:44 am

An electric fence (see previous threads for size,positioning etc.) is needed pronto.It's probably a fox,especially at this time of year,but never underestimate the potential viciousness of a badger(nice stripy faces,charming on endless TV nature programmesetc.etc....but can be devastating in a hen run,especially if there are eggs present,FAR more powerful than a fox). Best Wishes,hope you get it sorted.

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Post: #257512 boboff
Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:52 pm

You will tell if you have a bader as there will be little snuffle holes all over the place, like divets on a golf cource.
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Re: badger or fox?

Post: #257614 matowakan
Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:26 am

Aha! I have got a few little holes in the lawn and I wondered where thay came from so perhaps it is a badger. I put chicken wire flat on the ground around the pen to s distance of 3 feet or so 3 days ago and so far no more digging. I also put stones on top so as a short term solution I am hoping I have it sussed but will think about electric fencing.
Many thanks for replies.

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Post: #257615 boboff
Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:03 am

WIth your lawn holes, it is definately a badger. We have had one at home for a while, until recently kindly executed by a passing motorist.
Most of the chickens on the smallholding around have gone, including my own.
Apparently it's the lone males that get kicked out at puberty that cause all the problems!
They do travel some distances, and you may be able to see where they are getting into your property, and try and plug that gap as well, it may help, apparently they can range over a couple of miles.
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Re: badger or fox?

Post: #257892 matowakan
Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:03 am

Thanks for that Boboff, I have now noticed quite a few small holes all over the place in a random manner.
Unfortunately I cant plug the gap where they come on to the property as we are surrounded on 2 sides by miles of fields which separate from us via a deep ditch and wire fencing. So....I would have to put up a considerable amount of new fencing.!! But the wire so far is working around the chook coop so fingers crossed until I surround it with electric fencing.

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Re: badger or fox?

Post: #258447 matowakan
Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:21 pm

Last night a fox got into the coop bypassing all the boulders, stones and wire and killed all 6. I found 2 areas in the garden where he or they had laid and munched the chooks. No a pretty sight with body parts all over the place so now i am going back to square one and re desiging a fox proof coop,this time i shall be using an electric fence and covering the floor with chicken wire and putting earth on top of that.
I do wonder if the hunting ban has had an effect on the fox population as up to last year we never saw a fox after years of living here in rural Dorset.
O well these things happen!!

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Post: #258461 oldjerry
Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:00 pm

I'm truly sorry to hear your news,I battled foxes for a long ,long time.Forget hunting(most of those clowns couldn't ride a rocking horse) overwhelmingly IF,and it's a big if,they kill any foxes they're old\knackered and no threat to your hens.Don't get me wrong,I hate foxes,but the only way to control them is with a firearm(the sadoes that run after them on horseback need to get a job.)

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Re: badger or fox?

Post: #258473 boboff
Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:36 am

That is sad.
Electric fencing is the only way I think, given all the other issues with overcrowding and wanting the chucks to have a decent run.
Incidentally how do you know it's a fox and not your Badger?
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Re: badger or fox?

Post: #258501 matowakan
Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:57 pm

The pawprints near the run in some mud were studied !!!! They were to small and not heavy enough into the ground to be a badger. However I think it could have been 2 foxes due to the flattened areas where I think they ate some of the chooks.
I have spent today emtying the area of housing etc and have put heavy duty wire on the floor nailed to the sides at floor level and covering this with mud and turf to create a flase floor. Next is the electric fencing.
Incidently fox came back to have a go at the quail but couldnt get in to get them.
Now I just have to find more Pekings.

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Re: badger or fox?

Post: #258741 Rich.H
Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:20 pm

If the animal has left a clear roadway to your fence then trace this back 10 yeards or so and lay out a sandtrap to begin with. This will tell you what animal is causing the holes by your fence. If it's a badger your in sticky country as the law is all over the place on how you can deal with them so best to take methods of electric fencing there.

If it's a fox your wasting your time with electric fencing as charlie will work out a way around it anyhow and all you get is a hole in your wallet, a higher electric bill and more dead chickens. In this case get down to the local farmers and find a local chap with a gun and a good rep, throw him a few beers and a good diner and your problem will be solved until a new fox takes up residence, then rinse and repeat. Foxes are far too determined to be swayed by a litle bit of fencing and unless you are keeping very large amounts of chooks the costs just are not effective to try and deter.

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Re: badger or fox?

Post: #258850 Henwoman
Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:21 am

It's so horrible to go to your hens/ducks in the morning and find them dead. Everywhere I've lived with poultry I've had this problem at least once, but inbetween attacks months or years can go by - it doesn't make a lot of sense.


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