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Thought it would be nice to let you lot know what is going on and any future plans etc.
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Post: # 35379Post Millymollymandy
Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:01 am

It is clear now, except the problem with the recipes. I can now no longer post any more recipes on this site because I don't remember where I got them from - I take loads from the internet and save them but don't keep details of who wrote them/made them up. I expect lots of them posted on the many recipe sites are taken from somewhere else anyway!

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Post: # 35384Post Stonehead
Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:38 am

Millymollymandy wrote:It is clear now, except the problem with the recipes. I can now no longer post any more recipes on this site because I don't remember where I got them from - I take loads from the internet and save them but don't keep details of who wrote them/made them up. I expect lots of them posted on the many recipe sites are taken from somewhere else anyway!
And not just those on the internet. You'd be surprised how many of the cookery writers, both of books and in magazines, lift their recipes. The canny ones take them from books that are out of copright and update them, the sensible ones get permission from and give credit to the originator and modify them, but a surprising number just rip them off.

It used to be part of one of my jobs to spot things like this. I could tell you about a very well known TV celebrity who lifted a lot of other peoples' work over the years (not recipes ) and had them published in magazines, but that's a story for another day and one not to be put in writing! :cooldude:

As for recipes for which you don't have the original source, either don't publish them or, if you do, put a disclaimer on saying that the source is unknown but that if anyone can prove authorship you'll happily remove it or give them credit. (To prove authorship, they'd have to show evidence of the idea developing, proof of the final version and, possibly, date and place of publication but you don't need to publish to get the protection of copyright.)

The most important thing is that if you do post with a disclaimer, you must abide by it if someone contacts you or the owner of the website about the recipe. What you do, is take the recipe down pending verification of their authorship. If they can't prove authorship in a reasonable time frame (give them at least a month), then you could put it back.

As an example, I've posted a bacon curing recipe that I found written on a piece of paper. It's extremely unlikely that anyone could come forward and claim it as theirs, but I've still put on the recipe that it was found and where.
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Post: # 45098Post gunners71uk
Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:16 pm

stoney can i copy and paste me own posts from one forum to another as long they are me own material.
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Post: # 45101Post Andy Hamilton
Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:39 pm

gunners71uk wrote:stoney can i copy and paste me own posts from one forum to another as long they are me own material.
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I don't see why that would be a problem at all.
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Post: # 45194Post hedgewizard
Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:59 pm

No, it's not a problem because you own the copyright to your own work, Gunners. You can post it wherever you want!

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Post: # 45538Post loopybretonbunny
Sun Jan 07, 2007 1:36 pm

Being previously involved in copyright law I thought that I would post. What has been said is mainly correct as I understand it but actually doing something about it is very very difficult. Look how even the big multinationals with hundereds of lawyers and millions to spend on court preceedings are failing to bring all but a handful of cases to a successful completion.

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Post: # 45552Post Millymollymandy
Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:02 pm

Are you Loopy on Grumpy Old Gits forum? :lol:

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Post: # 45618Post loopybretonbunny
Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:26 am

Millymollymandy wrote:Are you Loopy on Grumpy Old Gits forum? :lol:
oui, et moi pensez que je sais qui vous êtes !

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Post: # 45624Post Millymollymandy
Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:55 pm

Actually I used to be MMM over there when it was the previous versions of the forum, but when the new forum started I just decided to change my name to MM instead of MMM!!

Anyway nice to see you here!

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