can't identify a fish!!Help please!!

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can't identify a fish!!Help please!!

Post: #261088 matowakan
Tue May 22, 2012 2:08 pm

A couple of years ago whilst using my crayfish trap I caught 2 fish in a local small river.
I brought them home and put them into my pond where they are still living happily.
Trouble is I dont know what they are.
They are about 5 inches long and a browny colour!! They both have white spots on the top of their head.
Can anyone help me identify them?

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Post: #261089 chickenchargrill
Tue May 22, 2012 3:17 pm

Do you have a photo of them?

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Post: #261108 MKG
Tue May 22, 2012 9:59 pm

The secret of life is to aim below the head (With thanks to MMM)

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Post: #261141 fungi2bwith
Wed May 23, 2012 4:07 pm

5" would be relatively big for a bullhead. If it is they are easily recognisable from above by their shape (looks like they have a wide squashed head). The shape can also be imagined from their other name "the miller's thumb".

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Post: #261182 matowakan
Thu May 24, 2012 8:10 am

Thanks for replies- I will try and take a photoif they stay still long enough.
We did wonder about Miller's Thumb but we dont think that's what the are but you never know.
I will not go and look at the site suggested.
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Post: #261183 matowakan
Thu May 24, 2012 8:13 am

Just had a look,def not a bullhead so will go out with a camera!!!

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Post: #261197 chickenchargrill
Thu May 24, 2012 9:49 am

The only other thing I could think of from the little description was a Ruffe (or Pope), but I don't think they have white spots on their head, unless the white spots are some kind of disease, can you tell if they're raised at all? But they're 5 inches when fully grown and they are browny and speckled.

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Post: #261219 matowakan
Thu May 24, 2012 2:27 pm

I have looked at piccies of the Ruffe and it isnt that.The dorsal fin is not right. I dont know if the spots are raised as I did wonder whether it could be a disease. The closest I have got to in appearance is the brown trout but with white spots!!
The two have been in the pond for a few years.At this time of year they appear to be spawning,chasing each other around the pond(where they live quite happily with newts and snails). I have wondered whether to catch one in a net and photograph it for identification.

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Post: #261225 chickenchargrill
Thu May 24, 2012 3:35 pm

I think that'd be your best bet. If it's small and trout shaped, it could be some kind of hybrid, maybe dace.

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Post: #261366 lycia
Sun May 27, 2012 1:20 pm

Does this look like the fish - the two at the front?
The one at the back is a Bullhead.
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Post: #261370 matowakan
Sun May 27, 2012 2:07 pm

Yes it does look v similar right down to the white spots.What is it??Thanks v much.I have been trying to get a photo myself for a couple of days without taking them out of the water but I havnt been able to.

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Post: #261377 lycia
Sun May 27, 2012 3:31 pm

We don't really know! My son caught 2 this morning in our river in East Devon. I have sent photo's to a friend who is an expert and will also be asking an education ranger tomorrow - so will let you know what they say.

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Post: #261911 MKG
Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:55 pm

I'm waiting with bated breath. In the meantime ...

a) Very small trout

b) Very large minnows

... in either case, with a fungal disease.

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Post: #261912 lycia
Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:08 pm

Someone has said a Parr (Salmon), waiting on 2nd opinion - also trying to catch another one to photograph the side better!

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Post: #261954 matowakan
Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:42 am

Thanks for replies,I will look up the fishes suggested.Cant believe that after 2 years or so I am finally getting closer to an identification!!


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