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Post: #45242 Andy Hamilton
Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:39 am

Anyone know anything about draining birch sap? I understand that it should be done in the spring as this is when the sap rises but does it damage the tree to do it now? Or will you just not get any sap?
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Post: #45260 pskipper
Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:14 pm

You would get very little sap, it would also be lower in sugars so not as good for wine making (which I presume is your plan)

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Post: #45589 Kev
Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:20 am

Hi Andy
Best time to collect Birch sap is in about the middle 2 weeks of March. Basically what you need is a tube of some sort a container to collect the sap and something to drill the hole with. You should only drill about 1/2 - 1 inch into the outer bark (the width of your tube). Drill the hole about 18 inches or so off the ground and at a slight angle upwards. The sap should start coming out immediately, If theres no sap try again a few days later. Most important thing is to plug the drilled hole so the trees not open to diseases and infection.

Just to add to this (just looked at your post again). If you do it now you will not get any sap, Bacause it hasn't started to rise yet. As long as you remember to plug the hole the tree will grow on unharmed.

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Post: #45605 Shirley
Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:16 am

We've got a paper birch - will it still make good wine??? I rather fancy the birch sap wine.
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Post: #45649 Kev
Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:02 pm

The paper birch can be used to make wine. You need about 1 gallon of birch sap.

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Post: #45650 Shirley
Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:04 pm

Kev wrote:The paper birch can be used to make wine. You need about 1 gallon of birch sap.


YAY!!! You've just made my day. Thank you.
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Post: #53098 Shirley
Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:57 am

Kev

Another question please - how thick does a birch tree need to be to use for tapping?
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Post: #53108 Andy Hamilton
Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:44 am

About 1 meter diameter I believe.

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Post: #53112 Shirley
Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:27 pm

Doh.... that seems awfully big! mine is a shrimp at 300mm so not likely to be doing it this year then.
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Post: #53120 Muddypause
Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:05 pm

That's one hell of a birch tree.
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Post: #53125 Cassiepod
Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:24 pm

should that be diameter or circumference? :oops: You've got me worried..

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Post: #53129 Shirley
Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:36 pm

Ohhh yes - I assumed circumference as a 1 metre diameter birch would be a GIANT!! Mine is 300mm circumference. Still too small either way :(
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Post: #53132 Andy Hamilton
Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:13 pm

Hmm yep that would be massive. I was sitting next to Dave and I said is it diameter or circumference, he said diameter. I think he was not listening :wink:
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Post: #53133 Dave
Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:16 pm

Nope weren't listening to him. 1m tall I meant :wink: (Joke)
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Post: #53325 Dave
Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:39 am

I think it's common sense, if it is a sapling tree then it's not going to do very well with being taped but old sturdy trees will fair better. There is a link http://www.bushcraftuk.com/content/articles.php?action=show&showarticle=74
here to a site that says not less than 8 to 10 inches in diameter.


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