The 52 week bin bag

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The 52 week bin bag

Post: # 96801Post johnhcrf »

I compost/recycle to the max, the strict ZWP campaign is being followed, envelopes are banned, cooking oil, aerosol cans set aside for special recycling, coffee jar tops return to suppliers investigated, cloth hankies only, alternative packaging investigated, any other idea that springs to mind. 52 weeks can be achieved, current value 5 weeks.
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Post: # 96802Post hedgewitch »

I would look at what you actually have in your bin after the five weeks and work backwards from there.
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After 5 weeks

Post: # 96819Post johnhcrf »

The 5 weeks is just a figure, previously it was 3 weeks. I intend to make it last over 5, if possible. You are right, the rubbish I collect over the period will hopefully lead to further recycling/return/reuse.

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Post: # 96821Post Clara »

I´m confused...how do you ban envelopes :? ?
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Post: # 96825Post johnhcrf »

Clara, The problem with envelopes is that they are sent mostly as junk mail. Part of the answer is to return these to sender or to the post office. Answers will arise to all aspects of bin reduction. The idea is to develop different tactics. Others will find solutions and hopefully spread the good word.

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So what is in your bin bag after 5 weeks?
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After 5 weeks bag

Post: # 96831Post johnhcrf »

I estimate there will be paper/plastic milk labels, metal/plastic milk tops, empty toothpaste tubes, plastic foil, paper hankies, apple stick on labels, some plastic bags (toilet-roll,kitchen roll etc)

How much - hopefully 1/4 of a bag

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Post: # 96833Post Annpan »

paper/plastic milk labels - get your milk delivered in bottles
metal/plastic milk tops, - as above, use your foil milk bottle tops as bird scarers
empty toothpaste tubes, - make your own toothpaste, someone here had a recipe a few days ago
plastic foil, - I don't know what plastic foil is... don't buy anything in plastic
paper hankies - burn them or compost them
aplple stick on labels - grow your own apples or buy from a farm shop or market
some plastic bags (toilet-roll,kitchen roll etc) - use muslin instead of kitchen roll, use wee wipe and the jug method for the toilet... or reuse the plasic bags to keep dirty wellies in, store things that have yet to be recycled, cover trays of sown seeds to propogate, etc,etc.



I reckon you could do 52 weeks no problem, if you had a multi-fuel burner, a greencone/ boshaki and a little bit of land... I reckon we could all do it... if we really tried
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Post: # 96835Post Shirley »

Sounds like an interesting plan John... how many are in your household?

We get our milk delivered in glass bottles but they come with little plastic caps and a plastic fastener (a bit like a cable tie without the ridges) - while these are much better than the foil caps in terms of keeping the milk fresh and keeping the birds from pecking through the lids when they are outside, I've yet to find a good use for them. I'm sending some down to my mum as her milk comes with foil tops and she won't finish a bottle that has been started the day before (YES, I know... I have told her a million times that the milk is still fine) - hopefully once she starts using these plastic caps she'll drink the milk the next day!

Envelopes are a pain to recycle - reuse is one idea, especially if you are asked to send an SAE to someone. We can't put envelopes into the recycling here and have to either bin or burn, or compost.
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Post: # 96839Post johnhcrf »

Thanks both for your input. I am a single man with an extended family. My younger brother is currently staying with me. He's from a different planet with regard to zero bin waste aspirations.
Replacement is a key way to remove difficult waste. Milk botttles are almost unknown up here but I know a guy who uses enzymes to compost oily rags. That may deal with plastic waste.
I am sure ideas will develop.

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Post: # 96842Post Stonehead »

We find the big problem is other people's rubbish that's thrown out of passing cars, dropped by walkers or blown here by the wind.

I did an experiment back in January, clearing an area of the croft completely of rubbish, leaving it for 24 hours, and then collecting everything deposited in the that time. I collected half a 10-litre bucket of other people's rubbish! :roll:
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Other people's rubbish

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Wind borne rubbish is everywhere and the best anybody can do is to clear it up. A lot of it is plastic and hopefully, plastic is a dying breed.

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Reason behind the 52 weeks

Post: # 96880Post johnhcrf »

There is a vicious cycle which is supplier - superstore - consumer - landfill. To break such a circle a link has to go. As a consumer, I have decided to break the link. My Bokashi bin deals with the food waste (council collections better), ZWP means no waste packaging, 52 week bin bag is designed to minimise home waste. If there is no waste, landfill will end.
The 52 weeks is for an individual. Families would have a bin bag for each family member per year, plenty of other exception (Stonehead's windblow rubbish).

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Reducing bin waste

Post: # 96942Post johnhcrf »

How many products do you know have ZWP? I know some - tin goods, hosehold plastic bottle/cap, milk, juice bottles, Pears soap, card/tin wrapped chocolate, unpackaged items generally. An extensive list would help consumers in their choices.

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Post: # 96945Post ina »

It would be even better to know what products you can still buy without any packaging at all... Even the little farm shops that are springing up everywhere around here pre-pack all their goods. OK, I suppose you can't do it any other way - or can you? I bought apples at a large orchard somewhere down south a few years back. They were just sitting there in boxes, and you weighed them out yourself. There was a sheet with instructions how to work out how much it cost, and everything was very much on trust. Great, though; I could use my own bags... And certain shops I frequent let you bring your own bags for veg as well as for carrying the shopping home, so I try to stick to them. On a local basis, it might be an idea to make these shops better known for this particular point as well!
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