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Post: #240545 Big Al
Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:40 pm

Give London a miss tonight!!.. and birmingham and bristol, and nottingham and manchester........
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Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:13 am

Just another benefit of living in a city. :iconbiggrin:
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Post: #240559 greenorelse
Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:34 am

Very good.

What's even better is being there with a camera running at that precise moment. Well done.
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Post: #240562 Nomada
Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:31 am

I think I'll....hide in the bathroom and lock the door if there's another riot outside my flat tonight. It was more than just a bit scary :pale: At least there should be nothing left to smash or burn. They destroyed it all last night. :shock: On the upside they did torch tesc0s.
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Post: #240564 zaxdog
Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:48 am

Oh you poor thing Nomada. Where do you live? Is it perhaps possible for you to go and stay with friends in another area until the vile creatures are rounded up?

Sending you hugs and hoping things will improve there :hugish:

Can't imagine anything like that happening here :shock:

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Post: #240567 Nomada
Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:48 pm

Liverpool, Zaxdog. I hate them, they weren't even from around here but they came from all over to smash us up because this was were the last riot took place. The people in this area have spent the last 20 years trying to get back to normal after that and shake off the reputation now they've destroyed everything again. There was no need for it. At least there were underlying issues last time, people were angry for varous reasons but these people don't have a cause, they're just doing it for fun. I don't understand why they targeted peoples homes. They were putting bricks trough windows. We're not rich round here, we're mostly just trying our best and struggling. At least they left the local shop alone and focused their attention on the supermarket. I'm so angry I could cry.
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Post: #240568 Nomada
Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:52 pm

I'm thinking of going back to my parents but my partner wont leave the flat and I don't want to leave him.
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Post: #240569 SouthernDave
Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:54 pm

zaxdog wrote: the vile creatures are rounded up?



I am not defending their actions, but vile? They are only people same as you or me. The whole situation is daft and I don't understand smashing up people's homes, but personally I fear the repercussions more than the riots. More civil liberties will be lost, more draconian 'punishments' meted out to those who can least afford it.

For me the real criminals and crooks are in suits running the big businesses and the state, but that's a whole new discussion......

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Post: #240571 Nomada
Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:02 pm

I actually do agree Southern Dave, these people are idiots, I mean who sh*ts where they eat but I also don't want to live in a police state. There's talk of curfews and things, it's slippery slope.
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Post: #240572 zaxdog
Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:07 pm

In a democracy though the way to change things that are not acceptable is through voting, which I notice a lot of people who complain about the way the government functions do not bother with.

Firebombing homes, stealing, beating up people, attacking the police, mugging kids..... these things are truely vile in my opinion and nothing to do with an underlying issue in London. Just some scumbags who want to break the law and terrorise others for fun.

Nomada I hope you and your partner stay safe and I am sure your community will rally round to get things back on track when these criminals have been flushed out :hugish:

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Post: #240575 trinder
Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:35 pm

SouthernDave wrote:
zaxdog wrote: the vile creatures are rounded up?



I am not defending their actions, but vile? They are only people same as you or me. The whole situation is daft and I don't understand smashing up people's homes, but personally I fear the repercussions more than the riots. More civil liberties will be lost, more draconian 'punishments' meted out to those who can least afford it.

For me the real criminals and crooks are in suits running the big businesses and the state, but that's a whole new discussion......


I am also with southern Dave. "These people" are so angry and lashing out destroying those things that are beyond them ( or so they think) that learned helplessness is really poisoning some young people. But I acknowledge it is not my stuff being destroyed or me having to live through it. love and hugs to those who are.
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Post: #240576 SouthernDave
Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:40 pm

As I said, I don't agree with much of what's happened over the last few days but some of it, if not all of it, is understandable even if it is unpalatable.

I have just been reading elsewhere a blog which does show a differnt light on things:

"In one NBC report, a young man in Tottenham was asked if rioting really achieved anything: "Yes," said the young man. "You wouldn't be talking to me now if we didn't riot, would you?" "Two
months ago we marched to Scotland Yard, more than 2,000 of us, all
blacks, and it was peaceful and calm and you know what? Not a word in
the press. Last night a bit of rioting and looting and look around you." Eavesdropping
from among the onlookers, I looked around. A dozen TV crews and
newspaper reporters interviewing the young men everywhere ‘’’ There
are communities all over the country that nobody paid attention to
unless there had recently been a riot or a murdered child. Well, they’re
paying attention now"

The trouble is that people just blindly swallow whatever the hell is pumped out by Sky News, the BBC and the major red-top press like the Sun without ever having to try and think for themselves and ask why such activities are going on or where the underlying causes are. There are many issues here and probably not the place to discuss them, but the real truth is certainly a long way from whatever is being portrayed in the media at the current time.

The repercussions however will be real enough, so will the grinning politicians reaping the rewards of such 'swift action' in the face of adversary. So much so in fact I wonder whether some of the disturbances are in fact the work of agent provocateurs.....

Either way we as a class lose.

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Post: #240578 happyhippy
Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:54 pm

Who cares what the reasons behind it are.They should not be commiting crimes and causing havoc to prove a point.The only point they're proving is that they're idiots.Are they now going to gain employment with a crim record? :angryfire: Truly feel sorry for the victims in all this.


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