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Argument for gun sports?

Post: #267822 grahamhobbs
Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:27 pm

Read in the paper today, that 13 people have been shot dead in the first month of the game shooting season in Italy. They didn't mention the number of deer, boar and small birds.

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Post: #267827 Mrs Moustoir
Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:41 pm

I expect there are similar statistics for France.

I'm sure they wear the hi-vis caps just to help their chums find and shoot them. :drunken: Especially after a good lunch.

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Post: #267829 contadina
Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:10 pm

Last year 35 people were killed and 75 injured; not bad going for just three-days a week over a period of four months. Among the dead was a mushroom picker and 13 of the injured were either walkers or cyclists. It's also the period when house burglaries rise dramatically.

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Post: #267830 Crickleymal
Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:22 pm

He shot the limit that the game laws would allow;
Two game wardens, seven hunters and a pure-bred Jersey cow!"
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Re: Argument for gun sports?

Post: #267835 oldjerry
Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:13 pm

Once went on the yearly Wild Boar shoot,! 1 bloke dead,2 injured.

I spent 12 yrs as a central London dispatch rider.......far safer!
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Post: #267843 The Riff-Raff Element
Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:07 am

Use a tree - that's much safer. I got a partridge like that only yesterday. Out on a walk, the dog flushed a covey and one bird flew into a tree hard enough the blow the wax out of its ears and I finished it off. I have a nasty feeling that taking it home was technically illegal, so I have plucked & drawn the evidence with a view to a more permanent disposal in due course.

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Re: Argument for gun sports?

Post: #267871 demi
Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:37 pm

People who kill for fun deserve to be victims of their own stupidity. Kill for food or in rare circumstances, for self defence, but never for fun. Sick bastard toffs deserve everything they get!
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Re: Argument for gun sports?

Post: #267878 GeorgeSalt
Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:20 pm

demi wrote:People who kill for fun deserve to be victims of their own stupidity. Kill for food or in rare circumstances, for self defence, but never for fun. Sick bastard toffs deserve everything they get!

Game hunting is done for food. It may be a social occasion for some, and on estates the game may be reared for it - but that's unlikely if it's boar or deer.

It's trophy hunting that's done purely for sport. And a large number of the casualties seem to not be the hunters and therefore hardly deserving of "everything they get".
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Post: #267886 The Riff-Raff Element
Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:31 pm

demi wrote:People who kill for fun deserve to be victims of their own stupidity. Kill for food or in rare circumstances, for self defence, but never for fun. Sick bastard toffs deserve everything they get!


Sounds a bit puritanical Demi. Don't you enjoy the rearing of your pig in anticipation of the sausages? I can say without fear of contradiction that the membership of hunts around here is definitely not toffs. In France (and I suspect Italy), hunting for the pot is regarded as the right of the common man. And no-one deserves to be killed.

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Re: Argument for gun sports?

Post: #267894 big brew ejit
Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:26 pm

Also dear and boar left unmanaged can become widespread damaging crops, farmland eg fencing etc. which can have a negative impact on peoples livlihoods. They can also have an impact on local flora and fauna.

In short there are times when they need to be culled. If their meat can be used that's a bonus but if can't well that's how it is.

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Re: Argument for gun sports?

Post: #267900 merlin
Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:14 am

I am not taking either side, but it does seem to me that every year they take their guns and run around the forests around here (yes killing each other from time to time), and I get the destinct impression that think it is all so macho. Laughable really, just blasting a pig or two and getting drunk afterwards, soooo macho, it was a pitty they were not so handy whn the Turkish came!
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Re: Argument for gun sports?

Post: #267905 contadina
Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:55 am

It's definitely not for toffs in southern Italy, although the gun licences are really expensive. Hunters here only shoot thrush and blackbirds and the reason most of them give is because they scratch under olive trees, making it more difficult to sweep olives. People who shoot for sport or to sell are really frowned upon. Like Merlin though, I suspect the main reason they do it it is to show how macho they are and escape the wife.

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Re: Argument for gun sports?

Post: #267906 gregorach
Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:32 am

Well, there's no shortage of toff-related sport shooting up here... Can't say that I'm a fan, but it is an important part of the rural economy. They mostly seem to avoid shooting each other though.
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Re: Argument for gun sports?

Post: #267907 oldfella
Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:02 am

Here in my Region, there is a shortage of hunters, and we are over run with Wild Boar and Deer; Last night for instance, at 7-30 pm I pasted 8 deer in my neighbours fields, and the wild Boars destroy the maize crops.
In my freezer I have leg of Deer, and last week I was offered a Hind Quarter of Boar. So although I dislike the idea, of killing any animal, what is the alternative.
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Re: Argument for gun sports?

Post: #267912 demi
Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:35 am

Hunting for food is perfectly aceptable. Its hunting for sport i strongly dissagree with. If you are going to kill an animal the least you can do it take it home and have it for dinner. Life should not be wasted.
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