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Postby Durgan » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:45 pm

Safe Injection Sites.
YEKATERINBURG, Russia — The treatment centre does not handcuff addicts to their beds any more. But caged together on double-decker bunks with no way out, they have no choice but to endure the agonies of withdrawal, the first step in a harsh, coercive approach to drug treatment that has gained wide support in Russia.
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Postby The Riff-Raff Element » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:52 pm

Very...Russian. I think that's about all I can say.
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Postby MKG » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:53 pm

Well, now we know what we should do with out fat children :shock:

You have to be kidding, Durgan.

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Postby Durgan » Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:19 pm

Canadian Safe Injection Sites do not supply the drugs. The druggy brings in his illegal street drugs and gives them to the health care worker to inject. The needle is clean though.
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Postby Milims » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:22 am

And this has to do with being self sufficient in your own back yard how? Durgan as much as we like to find out stuff about what's going on in the world FFS please make it relevant to the ethos of the site! Sorry mate but you are really going a bit off the mark!
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Postby Durgan » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:18 am

Milims wrote:And this has to do with being self sufficient in your own back yard how? Durgan as much as we like to find out stuff about what's going on in the world FFS please make it relevant to the ethos of the site! Sorry mate but you are really going a bit off the mark!
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Postby demi » Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:04 am

Here, if you are a junkie you go register at the clinic thing and they put you on prescription for methadone. You then go every day to the clinic, they test your pee to check you've not taken any heroin and if its clean they give you the methadone, then you go home again. If you go to the pharmacy you can buy tromadol 'under the counter' to take along with your methadone for a better hit. We've got some junkie friends here. We we try not to socialise with them anymore because things were going missing from our house when they were here. One guy stole 300 euros from our bedroom and the spare set of keys for the appartmet which we never realised at the time. Then when we left to go back to Scotland the appartment was broken into, nothing was messed up, they went straight to my jewlery from the wedding and took it. That was all that was taken, they knew exactly where it was. Even if they are your friends they can't be trusted. As my husband rightly says "heroin is a curse and it curses everyone arround it".

I have seen footage on the news here from orphanages which literally have the kids tied by their wrists and ankles to the bars of their cots, most of them too big to fit in the cots. That was a truly horrific site to see.
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Postby demi » Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:08 am

Look what happens when i write 'tromadol' and spell it correctly. When i post it it changes to this:


another one of those stupid drugs that are only available on line and are no doubt well dodgy, this



I thought id been hacked! Must be to do with those settings on the site preventing you from saying certain things. Are we not allowed freedom of speech here? Doesn't that violate our human rights?
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Postby the.fee.fairy » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:19 am

Its because there are spammers who sell dodgy drugs over the internet. So the word filter is set to pick up certain drug names commonly used by the spammers to alert us to the post.

It's not stopping freedom of speech, just letting people know that the poster may be a spammer (not that we think you are, it's usually the one-post people who get caught).
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Postby MKG » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:37 am

A couple of well-placed asterisks usually does the job, demi.

Tr*madol.

Tram*dol.

Tra*adol.

See?

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Postby diggernotdreamer » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:42 pm

I have a relative who had a heroin habit. He is very clever, well spoken, not the kind of person you would think would turn to heroin. He now has Hep C and suffers health problems. He kicked the heroin because HE wanted to do it, you cannot force people with addiction problems to kick them. Often people who have been cleaned in this way falter and start using again. He is a drugs counsellor now in the prison system. People who overeat, use drugs or alcohol and other addictions do have my sympathy, any one of us could fall into a spiral of addiction. Some people cannot control their particular OCD's and paranoia's which also affects family and friends of the sufferer, should we also treat these people with contempt and cage them up until they get over it?? Reconnecting to the earth may help, Green Care Farms and Horticultural Therapy help a lot of people with mental heath problems, bit of understanding, human kindness and empathy for these unfortunates would be more called for.
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Postby demi » Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:50 am

Ah yes, the dirty spammers. That makes sence :) Thanks guys.

Diggernotdreamer, Its the same here with the people we know. They we all in university with my husband staying in the student dormetories in Skopje, the capital, thats where they got introduced to it. Quite strange, in Brittain we have a totally different attitude towards heroin, in that its viewed as somthing lower class people with unstable families who are envolved in gangs do, not students at university.

Every one of my husbands friends who take heroin have messed their lives up, can't hold down a job and live off their parents. Some of them were married with kids and their wifes left them because of it. My husband in 32 and his friends are around the same age, still living off their parents to feed their drug habbit. And if you met them you's think they were nice normal people, they don't look like homless junkies or anything, just normal. But they are f*cking up their lives with heroin and as long as they keep taking it they cannot be trusted. Iv got 2 small kids, i can't have people comming round and taking heroin in my bathroom when the kids are in the house, no way! My husband and i have taken it with them ages ago before we had kids when we were hanging out with them. But after we took it a couple of times they kept comming to the house wanting to take it together again and for us to pay for it for them. Then things started going missing from the house. My husband was really hurt because they've been friends for years and he said if he really needed money he should of just asked for it and he would of gave it to him.

But that is that, we've only taken it ocationally after my daughter was born and not at all since i was pregnant with my son. And we try not to speak to those people any more. Its best to stay well clear.
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Postby merlin » Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:17 pm

Well dun demi, you shood keep doin the rite thing.
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Postby boboff » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:20 am

Durgan wrote:
Milims wrote:And this has to do with being self sufficient in your own back yard how? Durgan as much as we like to find out stuff about what's going on in the world FFS please make it relevant to the ethos of the site! Sorry mate but you are really going a bit off the mark!
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