Two plants need identification please

[Cloud]

These two plants we inherited from the previous owners. This first I thought looked like Shrimp Tail (Justicia brandegeana) and I've been calling it this, but I've now seen a proper Shrimp Tail plant and our is nothing like it. It's very beautiful, but I'm worried that it seems so vigourous. It's about four of five foot high. It has black berry hidden in the red petal/leaves (sepals?), and white flowers.

Like, but not shrimp tail

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Then this second one we discovered today. I'm calling it sapient pearwood as it has little legs along it branches (a little like ivy), but is woody like currents. Looks like the previous owner planned to have it creeping up the south facing fence. I'm rather hoping it might have fruit of some sort. Pity we didn't find it sooner as flowers would have helped the ID.

sapient pearwood

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EDIT - didn't think the first picture told the whole story. Here's a close up of another part of the same plant.

wood little legs

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[snapdragon]

I think the first pic is Pheasant Berry

the second looks a bit like a decorative quince

[Millymollymandy]

The first one is Leycesteria formosa or Pheasant bush/tree/berry/whatever
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leycesteria_formosa

2nd one I don't recognise.

[Thomzo]

Well thanks for this as I have both. Like you, I thought (was told) that the first one was a shrimp plant so I now know better.

I don't know the name of the second but if it is what I have then it is VERY invasive. The sticky pads stick to anything and it will get in between your fence panels and force them apart. It was all the way up the outside of my house in one season and making its way inside the roof space. Apparently the previous owners had problems with it lifting roof tiles and blocking air vents. It has small green berries that hang in bunches like tiny grapes.

Zoe

[Cloud]

I think the first pic is Pheasant Berry

Thanks. You and MMM have hit the nail on the head with this. That's it all right.

the second looks a bit like a decorative quince

I really hope it is. I'd love to have a quince, even a decorative quince, as I want to plant an apple tree and I gather quince will fertilise an apple. I didn't know quince had all those 'legs', I didn't think it was a creeper.

I don't know the name of the second but if it is what I have then it is VERY invasive. The sticky pads stick to anything and it will get in between your fence panels and force them apart. It was all the way up the outside of my house in one season and making its way inside the roof space. Apparently the previous owners had problems with it lifting roof tiles and blocking air vents. It has small green berries that hang in bunches like tiny grapes.

That's worrying. Sound just like what I have. Fortunately mine is nowhere near the house, but it is on a fence and certainly taking hold of it. Could it actually be some sort of vine? But the leave look more like apple (or quince)! I'm confused.

[Millymollymandy]

It doesn't look like Japonica (ornamental quince) to me. Japonica grows as a rather messy looking bush/shrub - best bet is to google some pictures of it to compare to your plant.

[Plotter]

The second one is not a quince, it reminds me most of a climbing hydrangea but I'm not sure.

[Cloud]

The second one is not a quince, it reminds me most of a climbing hydrangea but I'm not sure.

Oh, Plotter, I think you're on to something there! With that name to search with google is sowing some very similar to my plants. It's certainly got those little aerial root thing going for it, and the leaves match too. Only some of the best picture suggest the branches should be more orange, but maybe that just different types.

If it is a climbing hydrangea it will be a lovely plant with some gorgeous flowers, going by the pictures.

[Cloud]

Yes, it is a climbing hydrangea. I eventually took brach to a local garden centre for Id and he recognised it immediately as Hydrangea Petiolaris, a.k.a Climing Hydrangea.

And with all the cutting back and clearing out we've been doing we've fond more plants, some we can't identify (yet), but among them was a Flowing Quince (it still had it's label from the garden centre). So we get our decorative Quince too!

Finding thing we doin't know we had it becoming a favourite pasttime

[frozenthunderbolt]

Sapient pear wood would have been much more fun . . .

[Millymollymandy]

Great that you've found out what it is!