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Richard III Found!!?

Postby oldjerry » Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:03 pm

Rhyming Slang aside......It's got to be another Piltdown Man, but just in case it's true,and if you don't bother with the papers,it seems that his body could well have been found .....under a council car park in Leicester!

Following on from the remarkably good Olympic opening ceremony in the true nature of British self-deprecation,I think we should leave him where he is,and put everything back the way it was.In order to show a measure of respect,we could mark the spot; something along the lines of ..
MOTORCYCLES ONLY


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RICHARD 111


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Re: Richard III Found!!?

Postby MKG » Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:44 pm

It's amazing what you can find under a car park. Byron's under one too. What makes me wonder about Dick 3 is why? We know he's there somewhere, we know he's dead and we know he had bones. I can understand the search for the church, but bones? What are we going to do with them? (I bet I know - they'll be reburied in exactly the same place with a bit of a service).

So, in the end, we'll have a car park and we'll know that there's an old church and Dick's bones down there. Which, actually, we already knew.

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Re: Richard III Found!!?

Postby Odsox » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:32 pm

MKG wrote: I can understand the search for the church, but bones? What are we going to do with them?

Up market bone meal ?
Just the job for regal pelargoniums, royal ferns, kingcups...... :king:
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Re: Richard III Found!!?

Postby Green Aura » Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:07 pm

I was listening to all this on Radio 4 while driving up the A9. They were fairly certain it's R111 because the skeleton had scoliosis. But it was only about a fortnight ago that Radio 4 interviewed some bod who said the version of R111 as hunchback was just propaganda by Lancastrians and there's no real evidence for it. :scratch:
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Re: Richard III Found!!?

Postby MKG » Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:16 pm

Indeed - in fact, there's evidence against it: the painting which depicts him as hunchbacked has been X-ray analysed, and it's been altered. The hunch was painted in at a later date. However, they do have a direct descendant of his sister there to do a DNA comparison.

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Re: Richard III Found!!?

Postby oldjerry » Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:32 am

I saw an interview with him,an unassuming Canadian......it's got to be Rag Week surely?

Anyhow my point remains the same,why let an airbrushed, regicidal loser disrupt important council business? It's a disgrace.
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Re: Richard III Found!!?

Postby The Riff-Raff Element » Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:11 am

oldjerry wrote: Anyhow my point remains the same,why let an airbrushed, regicidal loser disrupt important council business? It's a disgrace.


It's the spirit of inquiry OJ - very valuable.

And it gives various specialists the opportunity to exercise their various skills.

A visitors centre containing an exhibition could be built in a corner of the carpark to house the bones and to attract bus loads of passing North American tourists who might be dimly related to Dicky III. Their generous donations would provide gainful employment for one or more otherwise unemployable history graduates, and of course the construction itself would provide a valuable income for a local family-run firm of builders.

Finally the nearest pub could be renamed the Richard III with an attached family restaurant, perhaps called the (My Kingdom for a) Hungry Horse, serving things like the Princes in the Tower skewered mixed grill, the world famous Hunch Burger and Bosworth Bangers & Mash.
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Re: Richard III Found!!?

Postby Green Aura » Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:43 am

Ah Stanley stew? (Ordered only in your best Larry Olivier voice)
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Re: Richard III Found!!?

Postby Skippy » Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:36 pm

One of my hobbies is re-enactment and the period I do is the wars of the roses, second half of the fiftheenth century. To be completely honest our group concentrates on the lives of the common man as most of us are artisans of one sort or another. We feel that although history is written about kings and nobles it is made by ordinary people. However, groups are formed around a "household" and ours is that of Sir Walter Devereux not that he ever appears but it's funny how often we get asked if we are yorkist or lancastrian and when we reply yorkist a lot of people then go on to say "good on yer" , as if it really matters which accident of birth rules the country and gets to spend our tax money.


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Re: Richard III Found!!?

Postby MuddyWitch » Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:54 pm

You want to know what all the fuss is about? Leicester tourest board. Apparently visitor numbers in this city are abismal...a bit like the city, methinks!

(And Nottingham has far more history & Leicester is jealous)

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Re: Richard III Found!!?

Postby oldjerry » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:41 pm

Incredibly,it seems It IS him !......not sure how they found him in the end............

.....perhaps it was just a hunch!!
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Re: Richard III Found!!?

Postby Skippy » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:57 pm

I caught an early morning tv news report before the annocemennt and they had traced an American sounding desendant of Richard's sister and were swabing his mouth to trace the dna.
Now it's confirmed it makes me wonder what the council will do to try and exploit their royal connection :king: :iconbiggrin:


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Re: Richard III Found!!?

Postby KeithBC » Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:48 am

oldjerry wrote:.....perhaps it was just a hunch!!

Aargh! :roll: :lol:
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Re: Richard III Found!!?

Postby Maykal » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:11 am

He was a human once - he should have a decent burial. The part I don't understand is the need for a multi-faith ceremony. Surely he would have been a Catholic, right? So 500 years after his crippled body had been knocked off his horse, his brain smashed in by some halberd-sporting Tudor-supporting man-at-arms, dragged around the streets like a GI in Mogadishu, stabbed a few more times post mortem, stripped naked, buried without ceremony, dug up, stuffed into a hole that was too small for him, and had a car park slapped on top of him, now they're going to subject his everlasting soul to some politically-correct service? You've got to feel sorry for him.
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