Tree fungus ID help needed [Solved]

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Tree fungus ID help needed [Solved]

Post: # 281829Post 1984jay
Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:09 pm

[Solved] Ganoderma applanatum

Sorry for the poor quality of this picture.

Can anyone identify this please?
Thank you in advance

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Post: # 281831Post Zech
Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:03 pm

I'm going to hazard a guess at a polypore of some kind, but that's about as far as my knowledge goes. Could you give us some more clues, such as what kind of tree it was growing on, and where in the world are you?
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Post: # 281832Post 1984jay
Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:15 pm

Polypore yep. Thanks for the reply.

It was taken from a Beech tree, possibly of the Ganoderma family though finding the exact species or whether it's safe or not is proving quite difficult.

There's a species called Ganoderma Lucidum which has very beneficial medicinal properties apparently though can't find whether this version is inedible or not due to being toxic, or just beccause it has a bitter / rough texture.

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Post: # 281833Post Zech
Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:44 pm

If you've already got as far as Ganoderma, I think it unlikely that anyone here will be able to do better on that basis of that photo. I may yet be proved wrong, though - there are more expert mushroomers than I around, and I'm sure one of them will be along before too long.
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Post: # 281834Post 1984jay
Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:52 pm

Have updated the photo

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Post: # 281836Post Oink
Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:28 pm

Hi there,

Zech was certainly right with this being a polypore.

1984jay you have definitely identified the genus correctly as Ganoderma.

As for the precise Ganoderma I would guess at two possibilities that are common on Beech in the UK.

We are perhaps looking at Ganoderma applanatum also known as the artists bracket. Simply scratch the underside witha sharp object and if it changes to a darker brown then you have your ID. Its well worth perusing the internet for artwork completed on this fungi as there are some beautiful pieces out there.

It could also be Ganoderma adspersum but without a better photograph and spores I cannot say with any certainty.

The Ganodermas are interesting as certain members like Ganoderma Lucidum do indeed have medicinal properties and it is drunk as a coffee substitute.

As for edibility, in general it is my understanding that many Ganoderma are not poisonous, but are considered inedible due to how tough they are. I wouldn't eat it for this reason, and there are just so many other beautiful edible fungi around at the moment.

Hope this helps.

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Post: # 281837Post 1984jay
Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:37 pm

Thanks for the reply Oink :)

Artists bracket are what my results have came up with though most of the pictures show a lighter brown colour of that. This one has almost rings around it of different shades. It does certainly turn dark brown when scored though.

I haven't found any info saying any of the species are poisonous though I'm very reluctant to try, even though they seem to boast such goodness.

I've asked this on another forum but, being a parasite, is it good to remove this from the tree? And if so how should I do that? Not sure how deep fungi grow inside the tree.

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Post: # 281838Post Oink
Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:00 pm

All I can say re removing bracket fungus is this.

If you have a recipe for Ganoderma then please be certain you are picking the correct species. A mistake may not be pleasant!

I pick chicken of the woods, young birch polypore, beefsteak fungus and dryads saddle. I eat the lot. Do I worry about the tree? NO!

I don't worry because if the fungus has already infected the tree or if the tree is dying, it is too late. I'm also not concerned because unless you strip a ring around the whole trees circumference a healthy tree will cope with some bark loss.

I REPEAT - Be certain you have the correct species AND a recipe. Drinks and tinctures from Ganoderma are easy enough to buy out there.

Take care,

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Re: Tree fungus ID help needed (updated photo)

Post: # 281858Post doofaloofa
Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:27 pm

To add to Oink's informative posts...

...remember the bit we see and recognise as a fungus is meerly the fruiting body, the main substance of the fungus is in the form of mycelia within the fungus's food supply, in this case the wood of the tree

just removing the bracket will not remove the fungus from the tree

Severe pruning may be required, cutting back to un infected wood
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Post: # 281874Post Oink
Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:12 pm

I'm with Doofaloofa on this matter..... :icon_smile:

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Re: Tree fungus ID help needed [Solved]

Post: # 281891Post doofaloofa
Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:57 am

I concur with Oink
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Re: Tree fungus ID help needed [Solved]

Post: # 281914Post 1984jay
Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:18 am

From a Horticulturists perspective though I'm thinking of the tree (even as a babe horticulturist) though someone foraging wouldn't be too concerned like you say Oink. However the infection isn't just bark level from what I understand, parasitic fungi rots the tree from the inside. Though appreciate your help, you've been very informative thanks.

Doofaloofa has it right I think when he says severe pruning may be required. From that, any tree would recover.

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