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Genetic modification, Roundup, video

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:57 pm
by Rosendula
I received this email today and thought people here would be interested in it. TBH, I haven't had time to watch the video yet, but if I don't post the link now I might forget :roll:
We helped organise a meeting about GM in Driffield last month where a Canadian farmer, Percy Schmeiser, spoke about the shocking situation for farmers who are now totally oppressed by Monsanto, as well as suffering very high levels of cancer and other environmentally related diseases. Roundup promotes initial cell change for example (which is a precursor to cancer), and this fact has been suppressed in order to promote the acceptance of GM technology
.... http://wideeyecinema.com/?p=105

Re: Genetic modification, Roundup, video

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:01 am
by The Riff-Raff Element
This is something I know a little about and it is also something that quite often makes me foam at the mouth and chew the carpet, frequently at the same time.

I'm not entirely anti-gm. I of the opinion that there are applications that are both justified and beneficial. The example I like best is the gm spud produced in India that was more efficient at harvesting nitrogen from the soil and hence was higher in protien, which is dead useful in a malnourised society.

But the GM soya and maize are a different matter. It is a myth that these plants are inherently better yielding: they yield no better than conventional varieties when grown in the same conventinal regime. Their (minor) yield improvemnets come about simply because these can be liberally washed with roundup after sprouting to remove weed competition.

And because Monsanto make both the seeds and the weed killer they are able to "add value" except to the wider environment, of course.

Whether roundup could be at the root of cancer, I'm not so sure. This type of compound is more usually associated with nerve damage rather than DNA/RNA disruption, though who knows everything? Either way, it's not going to be good for you.

Re: Genetic modification, Roundup, video

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:16 pm
by oldfella
Having watched the video I feel that Monsanto's Business Ethics and Practices, should be made a compulsory subject, in all Law, Business, Science, Studies as an example to us all.

BEFORE TAKEING THE BAƧTARDS OUTSIDE AND SHOOTING THEM

Please watch the video,

Eddy

Re: Genetic modification, Roundup, video

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:46 pm
by contadino
The Riff-Raff Element wrote:I'm not entirely anti-gm. I of the opinion that there are applications that are both justified and beneficial. The example I like best is the gm spud produced in India that was more efficient at harvesting nitrogen from the soil and hence was higher in protien, which is dead useful in a malnourised society.

But the GM soya and maize are a different matter. It is a myth that these plants are inherently better yielding: they yield no better than conventional varieties when grown in the same conventinal regime. Their (minor) yield improvemnets come about simply because these can be liberally washed with roundup after sprouting to remove weed competition.

And because Monsanto make both the seeds and the weed killer they are able to "add value" except to the wider environment, of course.
That's pretty much how I feel. I have no real problem with fiddling with genomes, after all that's what seed providers have been doing for hundreds of year. What bugs (and that's a tame term) me is what they're doing. There are plants, such as walnut trees, whose roots unleash chemicals to reduce competition from other plants. If GM companies were doing anything useful, why can't they create a strain of wheat that does the same? Maybe a strain of cabbage that isn't appetising to caterpillars? Instead it's being used as a means to agricultural extortion. Terminator 'technology' is the worst.

If these companies are trying to help poor farmers, for Gods sake let them save their own seeds!

Re: Genetic modification, Roundup, video

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:36 pm
by John Headstrong
have not had time to watch the video, but I have known about their tricks for years.

this is worth listening to http://www.seizetheday.org/music.cfm?tr ... 2&alphabet

Re: Genetic modification, Roundup, video

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:15 pm
by eccentric_emma
thats a great song! icant stop singing it!