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There are times.......
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:06 pm
by Martin
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:54 pm
by QuakerBear
The news is not there to be informative. The news is a light hearted magazine style show/website/buletin.

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:13 pm
by Silver Ether
The news is there to tell you what the powers that be want you to know and most of the time its just enough to scare you into being controlled ....
The rest is just fluff so we think we are getting all the info ...

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:24 pm
by Martin
beautifully, and succinctly put!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:52 pm
by Russian Doll
i agree

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:00 am
by Millymollymandy
And I heard that they will not be prosecuted because nobody in the audience wanted them to be! Now what does that say - all Stones fans are smokers, or ........? One rule or them and one for the rest it seems.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:34 am
by Martin
need a licence to f*rt soon!

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:19 am
by Millymollymandy
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:57 am
by Stonehead
Silver Ether wrote:The news is there to tell you what the powers that be want you to know and most of the time its just enough to scare you into being controlled ....
The rest is just fluff so we think we are getting all the info ...

If only it were true, but largely it's not.
The even more scarey truth is that you get shedloads of guff because "you" the people want it - as dictated by market testing, focus groups, post-sales analysis etc etc. Having had to sit through far too many of these exercises than is healthy, I can say with confidence that the self-selecting members of the audience who provide this "valuable" feedback are a bunch of very sad individuals indeed.
After all, what sort of person voluntarily travels many miles to be a member of a focus group that will decided the future direction of a major weekly magazine when the rewards are: a cup of tea and one biscuit, a tea-towel with the magazine logo, a corporate key ring, a guided tour of the magazine HQ and travel expenses paid (rail or bus only).
What sort of person likes to stand on a street corner for 20 minutes while a spotty teenager asks them what their news preferences are?
What sort of person likes to have a market researcher come into their home and analyse their lifestyle choices?
You can point out that these exercises are pointless and misdirecting, but in vain because the market researchers are infallible and what the "audience" says is gospel.
I've seen umpteen newspapers, magazines, radio programmes etc all driven down the same path of meaningless drivel because it's what the "audience" wants. Actually, it's what the meaningless drivel in the focus groups want.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:18 pm
by ina
Yeah, I've often wondered who they actually ask... Whenever somebody tells me that supermarkets sell what their customers want - well, I used to buy in supermarkets, nobody ever asked me what I wanted them to sell - and they don't really have much of what I need on a daily basis! So I suppose the same goes for news.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:26 pm
by Silver Ether
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:38 pm
by Moomintroll
QuakerBear wrote:The news is not there to be informative. The news is a light hearted magazine style show/website/buletin.

I agree. I think the media has become "dumbed down." A few of us were discussing this some time ago and we felt that there were fewer intelligent documentary-type programmes. There is the occasional one tucked away in the schedules requiring videoing (for example John Pilger's film on S America the other night.) Panorama was hidden away on Sunday night when really you don't want to watch it!
I wonder whether people are too closed-minded to want to ask the important questions and to question what goes on around them.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:27 pm
by glenniedragon
You have to be careful in surveys, at an unamed hospital in the south-east in which OH and I were working, HR decided to run an ethnic diversity study. OH answered 'Anglo-caledonian' in the 'other' section of origin in the survey, I told my friend of this and she also put 'anglo-caledonian' as that seemed a laugh as well as being correct, together with about half a dozen other of our friends........the result was they became a 'statistically significant' sample and the hospital had to research how they were meeting their specific cultural needs

haggis or clapshot never appeared on the canteen menu so it didn't make that much of a difference! but it did throw a spanner in the works!
kind thoughts
Deb
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:39 am
by Super.Niki
Silver Ether wrote:The news is there to tell you what the powers that be want you to know and most of the time its just enough to scare you into being controlled ....
Scarily true sometimes, it's not until you take a step back and look at the bigger picture that you realise the media is controlling every aspect of your life, with our without your wanting or even knowledge sometimes, and this happens from birth too it's hard to get away from!
Everyone's probably heard of it, but OutFoxed is a good film to watch, it's about FoxNews in the US but it's quite creepy and you wonder how much is true for the rest of the News TVs/Papers/whatever...
http://www.outfoxed.org/
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:18 am
by Shed Head
I call it defiance, but in a good way of course! Next, we'll be walking around with mind reading electrodes attached to our head and then prosecuted for thinking bad thoughts!
Oh crap! I've just been fined for thinking about having a cigarette in a non 50/50 room!