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Re: who believes in god (these days)

Post: # 124853Post Rod in Japan »

Thanks for the replies!

In the past, my attitude was to dismiss people's spiritual experiences out of hand. Now my approach is to be open and respectful of other people's experiences, but sceptical at the same time (because they may not be telling the truth, they may be deluded, or they may not be able to express what they experience). I also realised that it was pointless to ignore the possibility of God, simply assuming that my godless experience was all there was without going looking for God. It would be interesting to collect an anthology of people's communication with God, and see what the common strands and differences are.
Wombat wrote: One small example, I have a stressful job but generally cope. After a very stressful day i went to bed stressed and woke up at 1:00am unable to sleep. At about 3:00am the stress overwhelmed my ability to cope and I had some sort of panic attack. I didn't know whether I was going to have a heart attack, throw up or collapse but it was a most intense and most unpleasant feeling that I did not know what to do about.
I had a similar experience once. I threw up, then went to hospital to get myself sedated. Instead of hearing from God, I heard from some very nasty thing that was determined to be unkind. If such a situation ever arises again, I'll try prayer.

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Re: who believes in god (these days)

Post: # 124864Post Rosendula »

Rod in Japan wrote:It would be interesting to collect an anthology of people's communication with God, and see what the common strands and differences are.
What a wonderful idea! I think this would be make a very interesting read, regardless of whether or not you believe.
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Post: # 124908Post mrsflibble »

ooo now I'd love to compile that! sort of like nancy friday's books. only this one would be about god, not sex :lol:
oh how I love my tea, tea in the afternoon. I can't do without it, and I think I'll have another cup very
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Re: who believes in god (these days)

Post: # 124924Post oldfella »

Having lost my parents during the war at the age of eight, I was never in the situation of being taught anything about religion. In the orphanage we had assembly with prayers and had to go to church on Sunday, but for most of us it was something we did, and really had no significance. So until I had left the orphanage, and after going to the cinema and watching a war film, in which I saw the Germans and the English praying to the same God to help them kill each other, I really had not thought anything about about God or Religion.
My interests at that time were nature and wildlife, and I felt that mankind was just another species on this planet, so my understanding of of our world was formed within that context.
It is my believe that that mankind is the premier being on this planet because of his superior mental capacity, this however does not make him most intelligent, it does however make him the greediest. So I live my life based on the same rules as the most other species of this world, I use what I need to survive and respect others domain and believes, but because I can, as a human being I treat other people as I wish to be treated, and help others when I can, as I hope others will help me. Do I need to believe in a God, no I have never felt the need for more than I have ever had, I have had my ups and my downs the good and the bad but then when I think of my life compared to others I have lived in paradise for most of it.
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oldfella wrote:So I live my life based on the same rules as the most other species of this world, I use what I need to survive and respect others domain and believes, but because I can, as a human being I treat other people as I wish to be treated, and help others when I can, as I hope others will help me. Do I need to believe in a God, no I have never felt the need for more than I have ever had, I have had my ups and my downs the good and the bad but then when I think of my life compared to others I have lived in paradise for most of it.
Well put! You made me smile :sunny:
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Post: # 124950Post Green Aura »

I've enjoyed reading this thread, the honesty and acceptance of each others beliefs and lack of has been good.

My own beliefs are not religious (I'm an atheist), more political (left and green) and I've had some fairly unpleasant experiences at the hands of the devout.

However I defend people's right to believe in whatever, but will no longer tolerate their beliefs impinging on my life. I have never lived my life in any way that any deity could find offensive, although the odd mortal has found fault.
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Post: # 124952Post cruixman »

very interesting. out of all the replies oldfella proved that with years comes wisdom. and he certainly knows how tp put that wisdom into words. thanks all
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Post: # 124976Post thefriarandme »

I'm not too sure that I do believe in a God. If God exists, then I believe that he/she has some explaining to do.
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Re: who believes in god (these days)

Post: # 124990Post Karen_D »

Well, I'm a polytheist, animist and I worship my ancestors (and you can argue all you like about which god(s) are out there but I KNOW I've got ancestors :lol: ).

Why? Personal experience as well as some shared ones.

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Re: who believes in god (these days)

Post: # 124993Post Graye »

Interesting answers here!

Can I just say that I definitely do not believe in any god of any shape form or fashion. As far as I am concerned we are just the most developed/intelligent life forms on earth and any suggestion that there is something "out there" looking over me is ridiculous. BUT I defend anyone's right to believe in their own gods as long as it does not impinge in any way on my lifestyle. It's the one's which do or try to do that I worry about...
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Post: # 124997Post Fizzy Izzy »

I am most definitely a Christian - a believer in the power of prayer and regular church attender!

But, I love to hear about other people's beliefs and often find little gems of truth by learning about other religions.

Thank you all for your thoughts on this thread!
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Post: # 124999Post invisiblepiper »

I have more earth based belief- a unity with nature and cycles ( which I fear humankind are rather screwing up right now!)
But what I wanted to say was that the comment from oldfella was incredibly moving,
thank you. :sunny:

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Re: who believes in god (these days)

Post: # 125006Post Rod in Japan »

Graye wrote:any suggestion that there is something "out there" looking over me is ridiculous.
What if there was something in there that was the same thing as something out there that you couldn't see because of the me? What harm would it do to consider the possibility?

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Re: who believes in god (these days)

Post: # 125037Post Graye »

I think you missed out the beginning of the sentence -

As far as I am concerned ...... any suggestion that there is something "out there" looking over me is ridiculous.

And as for the possibility of there being "something"? No, tried that. I spent my formative years involved in a reasonably strict but non-proselytising religion (non-Christian) and I've basically rejected the lot. As I said, it's a personal choice and I have no problems with what others believe. But in my opinion there is nothing before and after life - we exist, we die - end of story.
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Re: who believes in god (these days)

Post: # 125071Post Helsbells »

Well, I'm a polytheist, animist and I worship my ancestors (and you can argue all you like about which god(s) are out there but I KNOW I've got ancestors ).
I certianly feel a strong connection to my ancestors and ancestry, and although I consider myself a Christian, I often think about my ancestors, and consider what they would think about the things I do, and have a strong sense of wanting to make them proud.

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