'They' can call them whatever they want, but in my mind there will always be a thirdworld! :Dtitch7069 wrote:BTW there is no such thing as the third world anymore, they are known as developing or emerging nations.
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titch7069
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Why? How patronising!
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Because not all nations are 'emerging' or 'developing'. Second world nations are 'emerging or developing' nations. There are nations that are on the up. Third world nations are the nations that aren't developing.
Brazil, for example, could perhaps be called an 'emerging' nation, but then, Brazil status of a second or third world country (depending on where you go in the country) isn't so much because the nation is poor (its the 5th biggest economy in the world) but because the distribution of wealth is such that a few a huge amounts and most people have piss-all. Its not an emerging nation, its a nation that is struggling with a huge poverty problem, still recovering from the dictatorship of the 1980s and being crushed under the weight of debt payments to the World Bank. Thus its a second or third world country.
Now, whether second or third world calling a country 'emerging' or 'developing' is partonising because it assumes 1. That one day they will have wealth that distributed throughout the society (despite IMF's best efforts to keep them poor and in debt) and 2. That somehow by calling a nation 'emerging' it makes all the problems of poverty go away.
Brazil, for example, could perhaps be called an 'emerging' nation, but then, Brazil status of a second or third world country (depending on where you go in the country) isn't so much because the nation is poor (its the 5th biggest economy in the world) but because the distribution of wealth is such that a few a huge amounts and most people have piss-all. Its not an emerging nation, its a nation that is struggling with a huge poverty problem, still recovering from the dictatorship of the 1980s and being crushed under the weight of debt payments to the World Bank. Thus its a second or third world country.
Now, whether second or third world calling a country 'emerging' or 'developing' is partonising because it assumes 1. That one day they will have wealth that distributed throughout the society (despite IMF's best efforts to keep them poor and in debt) and 2. That somehow by calling a nation 'emerging' it makes all the problems of poverty go away.
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titch7069
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Hmmmm.....Sawa, but - third world is a patronising term, i've used it myself, but, piss poor or not the poorest nations in the world don't need to be patronised. I live in one of the poorest areas of Tanzania, it's missed out on all development monies and has no industry, and since the bottom fell out of the coconut oil/milk/copra/cocoflour and coconut market in the mid eighties no export market either. People here subsistence farm most of the year and many starve to death or die of a myriad of diseases during the long rains. Maybe rather than talking of a third world people in the so called first world could come up with some solutions and give those in need some dignity, which patronising them with 30 year old buzz words does not do.
Have sold up in the UK, now living on Mafia Island, in the middle of an old coconut plantation. We catch our fish, have chickens, grow fruit and veg. We are powered by solar and an ankur gasifier - no mains elec here!!
My blog is at www.travelblog.org/Bloggers/titch
My blog is at www.travelblog.org/Bloggers/titch