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Post: # 60840Post ina »

chadspad wrote:Oh blimey :shock: that is vigorous lol. Think thats why its better to do the primary ferment in buckets so stop that happening.
I remember folks from my student days who thought they'd save themselves that step, and put whole cherries into the demijohns... The air lock locked itself with a cherry stone, and the whole shebang exploded. :shock: I think they re-decorated the kitchen after that. :mrgreen:
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Post: # 61375Post hoomin_erra »

I currently have a gallon of the following brewing merrily away.

Hawthorn Wine
Elderflower Wine
Gorse Wine (No shortage up here!!!)

A question for you all tho. Does anyone use finings to clear the wine? Or do you let it clear itself.

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Post: # 61378Post red »

hi and welcome to the forum


I dont use finings, but I do use a good brewing yeast that brings clearing qualities to wines, and both my mead and rhubarb wines were lovely and clear.

I also have elderflower wine bubbling away - theraputic.. watching those airlocks....
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Post: # 61425Post the.fee.fairy »

I haven't used finings yet, but i might have to on the mystery wine - i think its got something in it that's stopping it clearing.

I've got going:

Chai
Coffee
Coconut
and Mystery

and as of this weekend, i'll have the Lavender going too!

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Post: # 61439Post chadspad »

I havent used finings either, most wines do clear themselves but some are notorious for being harder to clear like plum especially if u have cooked the fruits first - this is where pectolase comes in handy. I have found that by using a campden tablet at the end helps drop any sediment to the bottom and perhaps another dose of pectolase.

Currently on the go:

Elderberry (just about to bottle)
Elderberry & pear
Pear
Pear & nectarine
Coffee
Plum
Quince
Coconut
Lavender
Mint

No wonder I have such a small kitchen :shock:
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Post: # 61462Post the.fee.fairy »

haha, i've got the same problem, my demijohns are in the broom alcove...and the broom ishaving to find somewhere else to live.

How much pectolase at a time do you use? I'm thinking that i might give it a go with the mystery wine (its got kiwi and oranges in it), but i don't want to use too much/too little.

Its finished fermenting - haven't heard a peep out of it for a while. I racked it on Saturday night, and it hasn't moved so i reckon the yeast has done its thing.

Also...when adding sugar, do you add it, taste it and then leave it for a while to ferment if its going to, or do you add it, then add campden tablets? The mystery wine is far far far too dry for me (i like medium-dry, not super dry!!) so i'm thinking of sweetening it. On the other hand, the chai one was far far far too sweet last time i racked it, so i put some more yeast and nutrient in it. it seems to be working so far.

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Post: # 61466Post chadspad »

Pectolase says to add 1 level teaspoon per gallon or 2 tsps if used with heated or boiled fruits. I only used 1 with my plum but then added another at a later date and that worked.

With sweetening, I add a campden tablet and most importantly potassium sorbate which stops the brew starting to ferment again when u add sugar to taste. After adding these I wait a couple of weeks then add the sugar. Try adding little bit of sugar at a time dissolved in cooled boiled water. I leave a glass of the wine in the fridge to taste it but then I like my wine really cold. U could also sweeten with fruit juice instead if u prefer - I added 1/2 litre of apple juice to my elderberry instead of sugar.
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Post: # 61469Post the.fee.fairy »

i shall give those suggestions a try! Thankyou

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Post: # 66202Post chadspad »

Sorted all my wines out the other night which helped me sleep a little better lol :drunken: The lavender has completely cleared and is ready to bottle - it has a very distinctive taste (it tastes exactly as it smells) and seems to be very strong (recipe did say it makes a wine of 18°!), the woman that have tried it love it, the blokes hate it. The mint is alright altho not as minty as I had hoped. The coffee is fab, there is def no mistaking its coffee. My elderberry and pear is absolutely delicious and ready to bottle although I doubt thats going to get the 2 years lay-down thats suggested lol. And the coconut and mango juice tastes of coconut and mango juice so thats a complete result! All in all a very good batch of wines and a good night was had by all testing them!

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Post: # 66210Post the.fee.fairy »

Its sitting in the demijohn waiting to be bottled i think.

Its not cleared very well, so i think i'll rerack it again, and leave it for a few weeks.

All mine are waiting to be bottled!! I put some pectolase in the mystery wine and its mostly cleared, the coffee and the chai ones have stopped. Must get bottling at the weekend!

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Post: # 67735Post chadspad »

OK, I have the most delicious plum wine that has been clear from the start, something I was dead chuffed about as I keep reading that plum wine is notorious for not clearing easily. Clear that is until I added my campden tablet prior to bottling and its gone all hazy!!!! Ive added another tsp of pectolase but that hasnt worked. Its been a month since the campden was added. Any idea on how to clear the wine please?
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Post: # 67738Post the.fee.fairy »

either commercial finings, or baked banana skin according to CJJ berry.

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Post: # 67739Post chadspad »

Thanks Fee. Problem with finings is the sachet is for 5 gallon and I only have 1 gallon. Not going to be easy to store a liquid sachet after opening and its the only one I have. Will use as last resort. Baked banana skins - will have to get the book ut and have a read!
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i have used egg white to fine something? cant remember what - had too much tannin - tannin binds to the protein in the egg white and precipitates out. may strip some colour though
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