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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:33 pm
by Big Al
ina wrote:I've just googled "biodegradable dog poo bags" and came up with several options... I've seen them somewhere, too - just can't remember where, as I don't have a dog, so these things kind of pass on the periphery of my conscience!
Thanks Ina, I must have spelt it wrong because i got nothing when I tried it about 9 - 12 months ago.

Will sort this out so there you are John, A convert to ZWP for carrier bags.......

Alan

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 4:12 pm
by johnhcrf
Unusual source, Big Al. Biodegradable is an improvement but still has to go to landfill. I choose to minimise my landfill and so use old-fashioned bags until 100% compostable bags are introduced. It is a bit "not for the male" but I do not care.

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 4:49 pm
by Big Al
johnhcrf wrote:Unusual source, Big Al. Biodegradable is an improvement but still has to go to landfill. I choose to minimise my landfill and so use old-fashioned bags until 100% compostable bags are introduced. It is a bit "not for the male" but I do not care.
not quite john. I have one of those dog poo composters that you dig into your garden and put the poo in there with some reactor agent and it dissolves it over time. That is fine for when my dog goes in the garden but it's a different thing when out side. I have tried using paper bags but as you can imagine it is a mess so if I had bio deg bags then these could be composted in the home garden.

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:54 pm
by johnhcrf
Good solution for dog doos, Al. When I scrape dog's dirt from the pavement outside, after putting soil over the mess, it gets located under several inches in the garden.

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:40 pm
by Annpan
Big Al - You might find a wander down the nappy isle helpful. most nappy sacks are degradable, but nature babycare do compostable ones, they are a bit pricey I know... but I am just letting you know that it might be worth a look.

Johnhcrf - could you please stop going on about recycling being a women's issue, it is highly irritating and offensive to both men and women - all of whom, on this site, are just as interested in the state of our planet...

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:36 pm
by Sian
What sort of bin bags do you use?

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 5:12 am
by johnhcrf
[quote="Sian"]What sort of bin bags do you use?[/quote

Good to hear from you, Sian. I plan to only use 1 bin bag per year. It is a simple bio-degradable bag from Lidl. What do you use?

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:08 pm
by Sian
One bin bag per year is pretty good going! I get through about one supermarket-sized one every ten days-council recycle plastic, metal, glass and paper but I don't have a compost bin-however I'm in the process of building a wormery for the back yard so that should reduce it further.

Weirdly, when we moved into this flat, there were loads of plastic carrier bags under the stairs. That was 18 months ago and I'm STILL getting through them! But I did wonder what I'd do when they run out. I'm not so keen on edible crops in 3rd world countries getting rerouted to making biodegradable bags/biofuels for us (I'd obviously get through more than you), and I don't think the council would appreciate me not using a bag, unfortunately! By the looks of it I've still got a few months to think about it though!

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:30 pm
by johnhcrf
Sian, the key is to remove food waste completely from the bin waste, then all that is left is plastic. When food is removed it is safe to load a big black bag over a long period, saving you using lots of plastic bags. I do not use plastic bags of any kind at all and feel better for doing that. Plastic bags are only 0.3% of landfill waste whereas packaging is a vastly higher figure. My idea is to reduce my landfill contribution to zero. This might also include composting plastic but this has not been developed yet. If it was in use my landfill would be zero.