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The web could do with a travel site that everyone adds to, so that is stays up to date. It could have trips that people have taken on trains, hitching, by boat or bus with prices etc. Could this be pulled off?

This site gives some bus and train routes around europe

http://www.idontfly.com/

Another site on green travel

http://www.greentraveller.co.uk/

yes I think you could have such a site and very worthwhile

I don't really get the purpose of this... Is it to save people money, by providing comparisons, or promote destinations and travel? Can you explain your idea a bit more Andy?

I found this and think its what your after.

www.seat61.com

loads of stuff about going anywhere on the train, even Japan!

Cheers for those sites folks.

Boots wrote:I don't really get the purpose of this... Is it to save people money, by providing comparisons, or promote destinations and travel? Can you explain your idea a bit more Andy?

I guess this is more a Europe based idea for now boots, simply put most will fly rather than get any other less polluting form of transport. It would be good to be able to have a one stop place populated with information from travellers saying how they travelled From Say London to Rome. - They could mention how to get cheaper rail tickets, if the coach (Bus) was much, much cheaper all that sort of thing.

thanks mew wonderful site

The problem I can see is that it costs more to go by train than to fly, Im thinking of making a trip to southern poland this summer and if I go it will be by train, but it would be cheaper to go by air .

Great to hear that you're going by train jonny. I know the cost is always an issue when you come to do it, but although ive not done so yet, the next hol I take abroad will be by train, and everything ive seen and heard about the overland (or boat) way of travelling is worth it, simply for the views and the people you meet along the way, together with the experiences of seeing more of the world whilst travelling to your destination. the extra cost has to be worthwhile as well as massively reducing your carbon footprint as opposed to flying (for me anyway).

I think SSSish (please Andy) should start a forum dedicated to people's recent holiday experiences travelling abroad via train / boat which those who are keen to dump the plane might be able to use as a source of reference.

Happy travelling

MEW

I don't fly. Did once, years ago.

Recently when I came from Finland to Hungary as an exchange student I first took a ferry from Finland to Germany, and came from there by train. Had a lot of fun in Berlin and Prague on the way! I considered hitchhiking, but with my loads of luggage + winter weather I ended up choosing train.

And 10 days ago I visited Zagreb, again by train! In April, I plan to hitchhike to Belgrad and Sofia, and in May, I and a friend are hitchhiking to Sarajevo!

Thanks for the links, those are some great websites!

this is a subject close to my heart, as we make our living advertising properties and holidays in central portugal. most of our guests fly here, and who can blame them when R***air flights are 1p each, or about £20 with taxes!
thanks for the links, i am going to look into promoting them via our websites.

another side to travel is what you do when you get here, and we are promoting small scale tourism, people staying (and therefore supporting) organic smallholdings. on the algarve all the hotels, swimming pools and golf courses has left little water for local peasant farmers - and the place is a horrible conurbation of concrete tower blocks. (the west algarve isnt so bad). so, its not just about how you get there, but also what you do there, what kind of development your pounds, euros and dollars is supporting.