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just got back from hospital with zachy and the doctor confirmed he was dairy intolerant,,i have to stop all dairy

has anyone got any recipies for normal food that can be cooked with no dairy

Is that all dairy Tea? Did they only test for cow products? I found after two years of no dairy that I can take goat milk products.

anyhoo chick peas are high in calcium (also protein)
shop bread contains milk products so home made is best
oat milk (yum liquid porage), soya milk (ugh I don't like it but many do), and rice milk will all substitute for milk in recipes
there are creamed soya products I believe that will act a bit like cheese.

It really depends what sort of food he likes, but if you pm me an address I'll post you a dairy free cookbook that I used when I was totally dairy free.

poor wee soul - but at least you've found out what troubles him and can act on it

Sheep milk products are around too... T***o do a sweetened soya milk thats a good price and it tastes good. You may find that some goat/ sheep products are not tolerated but others are... eg my son has sheep's cheese and yogurt but can't tolerate ices cream ... Ikea sell a swedish glace thats a nice substitute for ice cream. Pure available in health shops and vile T***o is a decent margarine and can be used for baking.

You are going to have to read lable over and over again ... be careful cuss the buggers change recipes with out telling you, I know been doing this for 24 years. It is easier now than then

Sorry, no help with 'recipes' but if you are at all concerned about calcium intake, tinned sardines are fantastic sources of calcium and are really cheap too. Ellis loves a sardine pasta bake using sardines, tinned tomatoes and whatever veg we have to hand - we just cook everything for a wee while, then blend it up to make a sort of pasta sauce. Because of the tomatoes and the veg, once blended you can hardly taste the sardines at all.
HTH xxx

hes only allowed soya based products..any ideas on nice cheeses

I found the local wholefood/healthfood store really helpfull. There are lots of soya based 'cheese' products Cheezley are a good company. Other than that Alpro make yogurts etc and even some that don't need to go in the fridge, much cheeper and just as good/yummy.
There is a really good allergy awarness site www.kidsaware.co.uk aimed at kids and making other people aware at school etc to prevent any accidents! Also very useful links. Just pm if you need any more help, have had two myself and a friend how's little boy has the most servire allergy our district hospital has ever seen!!
Good luck

Silver Ether wrote: Ikea sell a swedish glace thats a nice substitute for ice cream. Pure available in health shops and vile T***o is a decent margarine and can be used for baking.

Not just Ikea and T***o! Our local village shop (and other small shops) sells the glace, and although I'm not dairy free, I have occasionally bought it, because it really is very nice. And there are various vegan marges around - just trying to remember the name of my favourite one, but brain's gone...

Do you have access to unpasturised milk? I've actually no idea whether it can still be legally sold in the UK, but I know a couple of people here who show intollerence to pasturised milk but can drink the raw stuff (and things made from it - yoghurt, butter, cheese, etc) without any problem at all.

I am told that the pasturisation "dematures" certain proteins in milk that can make it indigestable.

This is, of course, irrelevant if lactose intollerence is the issue, tho' goat's milk can be of benefit here. Avoid sheep's milk products if this is the case - that has a higher lactose content than that from cows.

i dont have any access to unpasturised milk although im sure the kids would love a cow in the garden

im going to go to the health food shop tom and see what i can find

has anyone got any reccomendations for good kids dairy free cookbooks

I haven't seen any dairy-free recipe books per se but most recipes can be adapted. Soya milk is a good substitution for normal milk, except it doesn't seem to have the same protein structure so when making custard iwth powder you need to add twice as much powder. I buy the unsweetened milk as I think the sweetened is foul. Alpro do loads of different products including yoghurts, cream, even chocolate milk! The cream doesn't whip up like normal cream, it's just for pouring.

I think it's really just a matter of experimenting to see what works. I haven't found any cheese that's particularly good, but I'm told the dairy-free ice-cream has vastly improved. I've tried goats milk and found it was okay for a few days then my symptoms came back - it has lactose in it still, but in smaller droplets so slightly easier to digest, but in the end I was back to square one with it.

Addendum - just found this!
http://www.alprosoya.co.uk/alpro/UK_en/ ... index.html

We went dairy-free for a while to clear up LOs eczema, we made porridge with water (which takes some getting used to - or a big dollop of fruit spread ), and pastry with water and oil is just fine (the recipe is from Cranks, though my copy has lost this page, along with many others!). Has for cheese and other stuff, we just didn´t have it. Tahini is a superb source of calcium and combined with chickpeas to make hummus is a good source of protein.

We avoided soya products, other than tofu, because my understanding is that unless it had been fermented, like tofu, it contains really high levels of phytooestrogens, and I couldn´t reconcile the idea of feeding anything which might alter hormone levels to LO.

I know there is a series of books called "cooking without...." I suspect there is one aimed at children.

don't try cheezly feta, it mings big hairy butt.

Clara wrote:We went dairy-free for a while to clear up LOs eczema, we made porridge with water (which takes some getting used to - or a big dollop of fruit spread ), and pastry with water and oil is just fine (the recipe is from Cranks, though my copy has lost this page, along with many others!). Has for cheese and other stuff, we just didn´t have it. Tahini is a superb source of calcium and combined with chickpeas to make hummus is a good source of protein.

We avoided soya products, other than tofu, because my understanding is that unless it had been fermented, like tofu, it contains really high levels of phytooestrogens, and I couldn´t reconcile the idea of feeding anything which might alter hormone levels to LO.

I know there is a series of books called "cooking without...." I suspect there is one aimed at children.

what are phytooestrogens

tea690 wrote:

Clara wrote:We went dairy-free for a while to clear up LOs eczema, we made porridge with water (which takes some getting used to - or a big dollop of fruit spread ), and pastry with water and oil is just fine (the recipe is from Cranks, though my copy has lost this page, along with many others!). Has for cheese and other stuff, we just didn´t have it. Tahini is a superb source of calcium and combined with chickpeas to make hummus is a good source of protein.

We avoided soya products, other than tofu, because my understanding is that unless it had been fermented, like tofu, it contains really high levels of phytooestrogens, and I couldn´t reconcile the idea of feeding anything which might alter hormone levels to LO.

I know there is a series of books called "cooking without...." I suspect there is one aimed at children.

what are phytooestrogens

Naturally occuring plant steroids that MAY elicit some hormonal response in humans. But the jury is still very much out on this one.

In men they may actually help protect against prostate cancer, but could also affect sperm quality and (at the risk of being indelicate) ejactulate volumes.

In women they may adversly influence breast cancer therapies, though there is no indication that phytoestrogens cause any cancers.

There is a fair bit of research ongoing, but no-one is getting paricularly exercised about any great risk to human health. In any case, soya is only one source: nuts and grains are also high in these.

thanks for that