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Yesterday my hens didn't stir out of the henhouse because of the weather so I didn't see much of them. Popped my head round the door, they all clucked at me and seemed happy enough, so I left them to it.

Tonight I went up for their final check and one of my girls is poorly. Her stomach is really hard and distended and she is waddling rather than walking.

I've seperated her from the others, and will check on her again in the morning. I've been onto 'someone who knows' for instruction on how to destroy her if need be :(
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Is she egg-bound? If this is the case, you should be able to feel the egg in the lower abdomen.

You can try putting her under a heat lamp, as this helps relax the muscles.

If that doesn't work, then you get to be a chicken midwife. You put on surgical gloves, get a good smear of petroleum jelly on a finger and, holding the hen firmly so she can't escape or wriggle, insert your finger and lubricate the oviduct.

The oviduct is beneath a fold of skin to the left; the opening to the right leads to the intestine.

If the egg still won't come out, you can carefully puncture the shell and carefully remove the pieces. Not easy, but it can be done. Use dilute iodone spray in a squirt bottle to flush out.

NOTE: You must wear disposable surgical gloves, carefully peel them off into another plastic bag and seal, then dispose of. Then wash up very, very thoroughly.

(Remember our hen with the monster eggs? She was egg bound twice and that's how I fixed her up. However, her eggs continued to get bigger and eventually the stress was too much for her.)
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Post: # 39151Post PurpleDragon »

I wondered if she was egg bound, but her abdomen is really badly swollen and I didnt think she was laying anyway. This swelling doesnt seem to be in the right place for an egg to be - too high if you see what I mean. If she was a child, though, I would have said she was really badly constipated. I shall have a poke about in the morning, though, to check inside the vent, but it seemed okay this evening.
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PurpleDragon wrote:I wondered if she was egg bound, but her abdomen is really badly swollen and I didnt think she was laying anyway. This swelling doesnt seem to be in the right place for an egg to be - too high if you see what I mean. If she was a child, though, I would have said she was really badly constipated. I shall have a poke about in the morning, though, to check inside the vent, but it seemed okay this evening.
If it's an intestinal blockage, a dose of either epsom salts or castor oil can help clear it. Dissolve one teaspoon of epsom salts in one fluid ounce of water, then use a clean syringe to squirt it into her crop. Half a teaspoon of castor oil has the same effect.

I've used epsom salts to save a couple of birds with digestive problems. It can also be effective against botulism if used early enough.
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Post: # 39243Post PurpleDragon »

I think on closer examination in the daylight, she may be egg bound after all. I've tried freeing her up, but I'm afraid to hurt her. Got an appt at the vet for 2.30 - coward that I am!
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Post: # 39257Post PurpleDragon »

:( It was a tumour. The vet gave her a jag.
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Post: # 39264Post Stonehead »

PurpleDragon wrote::( It was a tumour. The vet gave her a jag.
Well, that's the reality of keeping livestock. You save some, you lose some. It can be hard, but it's all worthwhile. My sympathies.
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Post: # 39271Post PurpleDragon »

Cheers, Stoney. The vet said that there wasn't anything to be done, and it wasn't my fault - nothing to do with my poultry keeping.

I alwsy feel so damn guilty when any of my animals get sick.

The tumour was massive - the size of two of my fists - and I watched her walked about thinking she was a fat hen.

I talked to the vet about handling them more - I rarely handle my birds. They are free range and I don't really want them getting too friendly with people - don't want them nicked. They go into their coop themselves at night without any prompting. He just kinda shrugged and said "that is how hens should live".

Where does one draw the line between pets and livestock, you know? I don't even coddle the cats - they are friendly enough at feeding time, but aren't lap cats by any stretch. They are here for the vermin. That is their job.

Ho hum. Sometimes I feel like quitting you know?
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Post: # 39276Post Stonehead »

PurpleDragon wrote:I alwsy feel so damn guilty when any of my animals get sick.
No point in feeling guilty about it unless you're to blame - and the sort of people who don't take care of their animals, don't feel guilty anyway.
I talked to the vet about handling them more - I rarely handle my birds. They are free range and I don't really want them getting too friendly with people - don't want them nicked. They go into their coop themselves at night without any prompting. He just kinda shrugged and said "that is how hens should live".

Where does one draw the line between pets and livestock, you know? I don't even coddle the cats - they are friendly enough at feeding time, but aren't lap cats by any stretch. They are here for the vermin. That is their job.
I'd disagree to a certain extent. I make sure I handle all the livestock so I know what they feel like when they're healthy, to make sure they're neither too fat nor too lean, to have them used to a certain amount of handling should they need to be seen by a vet, and to just establish a link.

Take Graeme, our new boar. He's in the quarantine pen, but I make sure I'm the only one to feed him for the first week. I go in the pen, talk to him, let him sniff me, give him a rub behind the ear, then a back rub, then a walk around at my direction and then a feed. Then I give him another rub while he eats so he knows I'm there and has to accept it.

Once he's used to me, he's introduced to the OH in the same way and in a lesser way to the boys. We're the bosses, we give him food and nice things, and we're not a threat. Once he's used to that and done his quarantine, he joins the other pigs.

It's the same when I feed the other pigs. They get a talk, an ear rub or back scratch, and a feed. I stand next to them while they eat, but give them a firm nudge away with my knee if they try to chew my boots or clothes, or if they get too pushy (which they rarely do).

Chickens are the same. They get picked up, stroked in a calming way, talked to, and tucked under the arm for a carry around. All this allows me to check how they're doing and prepare them for any emergency situation - they're used to me picking them up, they know it's safe and most of them take it calmly.

None of the animals are pets, but they do get handled, they do get occasional treats (apples are a big favourite with pigs and chickens) and they do get rubs and scratches. It's all with the intention of reinforcing that we are not only the bosses, but the deliverer of good things.
Ho hum. Sometimes I feel like quitting you know?
No! :lol: The animals are the best part, in good times or bad.
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Post: # 39278Post PurpleDragon »

Well, I shall certainly be taking your advice. If anyone's chickens look healthy and happy, its yours!

I think you almost *have* to get that rapport with your pigs, though, because they are able to so easily do damage to people, particularly small people, because of their size. If I had pigs, then I would certainly have made more contact than I have with the hens.

I definately need to be more hands on with them.
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