Butchers or supermarket for meat?

[baldowrie]

you forgot about the feather duster and head scarf on domestic chores day

I do occassionally make my own pork patties, which go down well with the kids. But every now and again you have hanking for the forbidden fruit I never give into this one as the pain is too much from the reactions.

Just as an interesting point, I only have reactions to E221 or E223 if the the meat is hot. When it's cold, no reaction

[the.fee.fairy]

I'm using this thread to persuade my mother to shop at the butchers...i think we're nearly there!!

How do i find out whether there's preservatives and 'stuff' in the meat?

I'm allergic to pig products, unless they're really fresh and organic. Any idea what's causing that?! (I've got IBS, and pork plays merry hell with my insides. I had some organic local bacon at BGG and didn't have a problem though...)

[Stonehead]

How do i find out whether there's preservatives and 'stuff' in the meat?

Ask! They should list the ingredients.

I'm allergic to pig products, unless they're really fresh and organic. Any idea what's causing that?! (I've got IBS, and pork plays merry hell with my insides. I had some organic local bacon at BGG and didn't have a problem though...)

Pork in general or processed pork (eg sausages, ham, bacon etc)?

If the former, I'm not sure. But if the latter, then I'm not surprised. A lot of processed pork products are full of chemicals, additives, bulkers, and other gunge. (As HFW said the other night, how can a supermarket microwave burger have a shelf life of two weeks? Blech! It's the same with the bacon, sausages, etc.)

It's why I was vegetarian for many years. Depending on where I was living and what I was earning, I either could not source or afford high quality, locally sourced organic meat. (When I had the spare money, I didn't have a reliable, local organic butcher; when I had the butcher, I didn't have the money.)

I like meat, but not full of gunk and from dubious sources. I like to know exactly where it comes from and how it was reared.

Having my own animals or getting them from neighbours I trust and having a trustworthy butcher who sources locally is almost the best I could hope for. (The only way it could be better would be to have a ceritified organic local butcher sourcing from organic local farms.)


Oh, and a warning. Once your digestive system is used to organic, fresh wholefoods, be very, very wary aout eating anything else. I recently had two small slices of commercial pizza - the people who were used to it had no problems, but it wreaked havoc with my insides for days! (And it tasted foul, too.)

[Martin]

polyphosphates! - don't they sound fun? - something to do with parrots?
If you find them listed, the only reason they are there is to soak up atmospheric water, and thus to increase the weight..........
And most intensively farmed poultry have hefty residues of broad-spectrum antibiotics in them, used to keep them alive in the atrocious conditions!
Eat processed meat products at your peril!

[the.fee.fairy]

nice...

I have trouble with actual pork, and bacon and sausages. And anything else made from a pig.

It was just odd that when i went to BGG an gave in to the bacon cravings (the smell wafted in ,my tent and woke me up...) i was fine, and it was organic. I had the same thing in China, where the meat was fresh and mostly organic (they don't really 'do' additives over there for their meat, they just grow it and eat it). Although it makes me suffer, its only a little bit compared to non-organic.

I'll have a look into the polyphosphates and see what i can dig up.

[Stonehead]

nice...

I have trouble with actual pork, and bacon and sausages. And anything else made from a pig.

It was just odd that when i went to BGG an gave in to the bacon cravings (the smell wafted in ,my tent and woke me up...) i was fine, and it was organic. I had the same thing in China, where the meat was fresh and mostly organic (they don't really 'do' additives over there for their meat, they just grow it and eat it). Although it makes me suffer, its only a little bit compared to non-organic.

This will sound odd, but are you allergic to cats - even if only mildly?

Something I vaguely remember from when my brother was being treated for various allergies was called "pork-cat syndrome".

Basically, if a cat is around then it can heighten your sensitivity to pig albumin. I think that's right. If a cat is not present, then you can eat pork without problems. Weird, huh?

I googled it, but most of the papers are abstracts that you have to pay for but from what I could see, my memory is correct.

Pork allergy is also linked to strawberry and bean allergies, plus some others that I can't remember.

[baldowrie]

Stonehead
Oh, and a warning. Once your digestive system is used to organic, fresh wholefoods, be very, very wary aout eating anything else. I recently had two small slices of commercial pizza - the people who were used to it had no problems, but it wreaked havoc with my insides for days! (And it tasted foul, too.)

Every now and then I get hanking for a yucky micro wave meal..and yes I would have to say I can relate to your statement

[Ranter]

I adored my local butcher's shop. All the meat was local & traditionally reared, egg boxes were reused when returned, they also had a deli (with bread & cheese) & the 2 butchers were lovely to chat to. But the owner has died & the shop closed. I feel as though I've lost friends, I'm bereft.