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do I only pick and use the darkess berries? some are red still

[Millymollymandy]

Yes, they are ripe when they are black.

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thank you

I read I needed to wait unill they 'hang' but they don't seem to to even though they are black

[Millymollymandy]

I'm no expert but I suppose some of them do hang down when they are ripe, but then my more ornamental black leaved one doesn't!

Why not pick a berry and squidge it, if it's nice and juicy that should be fine for using. Otherwise if you wait the birds will probably have them.

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they seem fine so I'm going to make some jam tomorrow :)