CUTTING CRIME WITHOUT DOING PRISON TIME.

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Post: # 8852Post hedgewitch »

I certainly don't think people who commit crimes should get away with it at all, I just think that cutting off bits is not the way forward, except for peodophiles that is, but peodophilia is a lot more serious that stealing and drink driving.
My point was that if prison isn't detterent enough then I can't see the threat of having body parts chopped off working as a detterent either.
I certainly don't feel intimidated by you and I fail to see where you came up with that conclusion from the reponses you'd had.
So I'd say it's just you being you :flower:
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Post: # 8855Post Andy Hamilton »

I can't believe that I have not come across this post until now. Although heated debate is good for forums I am not so sure about your point of view on this one. I am also not so sure that this is the forum to discuss it. But here is my point of view anyway.

Ironically John you state I am not mad as the title of one of your posts. What about the people who are mad? If someone is not of sound mind when they commit a crime then should they have their fingers cut off? There have been studies of prisoners and most have some kind of brain damage or have history of abuse - see http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article ... 17&did=432

I have nursed some 'criminal' patients in the past whilst working in a phyciatric hospital. One person that sticks in my mind is someone who had voices telling her to kill. She tried to strangle a phyciatrist and a dog. When she got better she so full of remorse that servere depression set in. Happy ending though she is now very well and has gone to college and holds down a steady job that she needs both hands for!

So what if you in a mad moment commited a crime john? By your law you would have to loose a body part.
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Post: # 8866Post Wombat »

What about the stigma then attached to people who have lost body parts through accident?

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:mrgreen: How many times have you said,or heard the saying,if I caught the person who did it I would kill them or if it happen to me I would have killed them if I had got hold of them or I would have punched the 7 bells of s... out of them if it had happen to me.
What I'm saying is if we are already thinking this way,we are more than likely to do it,just like when we say to our children,if you don't do as your told you will be punished,which must have been said at some time by every parent at some time,which we all do and say if things are not going the way we want it to be,so we as individuals already deal out punishment to young children at a very early age,which we think will stop the problem there and then in our own way,done in the hope it will stop the children,which we all were at some time,from doing something wrong again after talking to them first if you can,or done by shouting,to show our anger,if that does not work then we have body contact to in force how we feel to back up what we say.
In a family environment where there are no rules set down,we all make up our own rules as we go along to gain respect from others good or bad to feel part of life,with a end result of some people sticking to the rules which can be bent,or some people who by choice decide to brake the rules to suit themselves,which is NOT OK if it involves others who respect the rules lay-ed down so that we can try to live together as individualls as best we can.
But I believe there are so many of us braking the law or rules now,that if we carry on the way we are going,fear will rule our lives from people who are on drugs or from those who have not been brought up properly to be good,which does effect us all whether we like it or not,which is why I put my idea forward in the hope it will help to solve a man made problem.

At least we are talking about something we as individuals all know something about,but we have to leave it to others to sort out,so if it does not work,we can blame them,without being involved our selves.
As for what goes on in other country's you can't do any thing about,but talk,that's why every one wants to come here because the fear of something,or someone,yet we are living in fear too in the UK depending on where you live.. John. JRP.

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Post: # 8883Post Chickenlady »

John, why use 650 words when just 10 would do?

Or even better in this case, zero. What absolute nonsense. I don't even know why anybody is getting in a discussion about this. If this post had been from somebody who hadn't previously posted, it would have been reported as spam and deleted. Your views are extreme and uncivilised, and have absolutely nothing to do with self sufficiency.

I am sure you would get a better reception if you were to have a look at some websites supporting fascism?
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Post: # 8906Post Andy Hamilton »

I have emailed john with the views of this site and reminded him of what the site is SUPOSED to be about.

This subject is now locked and any other posts that carry on with this subject will de deleted and the poster will be banned.
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