Pattie and chips

[Rosendula]

Over on Facebook I found a group called "You know you're from Hull when.....", and someone has put "You know what a pattie is". Well I know, but I'm rather shocked that you guys might not . Is that true? If so, what do you call those things you get from the fish & chip shop that are like mashed potato, sometimes with herbs mixed in, and covered in batter? They're not fritters, they're much bigger - about the size of a home-made burger, assuming yours are the same size as mine (sorry, I'm useless at thinking of comparisons). When I was a lass (cue to Hovis music) they used to be called "fish patties", but over time, less and less fish was added. These days there's no fish at all in them and they're just "patties".

[MKG]

Oh yes - the memories come flooding back. When Ah were a lad .... (more Hovis, please) ...

The chip shop was referred to as 'Ezzers and he sold a thing called a scallop - his version of a pattie.

That was two slices of a large potato with flaked fish (he had to use up the scraps somehow) sandwiched between them, then battered and deep fried. The annoying thing, though, is that I can't remember if I liked them.

People from Yorkshire (I'm from Yorkshire, so I'm allowed to say this) always imagine that they know something the rest of the world doesn't know - what a pattie is, what a Barnsley chop is, how to make a proper Yorkshire pudding, what the real purpose of licquorice is, how to grow rhubarb etc. etc. etc. But I've never met anyone from Yorkshire who really can make Yorkshire puddings (except me).

Lights the blue touch paper and stands well back ...

Mike

[StripyPixieSocks]

Must be an exceptionally regional thing as I've never heard of them or seen them in any chip shop I've been in up and down the country!

Or do you mean fish cakes? But the only fish cakes I've ever seen have been in breadcrumbs and definitely have fish in them... well... if you can call it that!

[Graye]

I don't think I've ever encountered one. Certainly not in the south west Midlands where I grew up and not here in North Yorkshire either. Although I have to say I'm not a great chip shop customer here - you get enough to last most people just walking around the town and taking in the general reek of chips and vinegar in the air, beginning from about 9am. I must be the only person living in Whitby who has never eaten in the Magpie Cafe too - I can't see the point of queuing down the road for a very overpriced plate of fish and chips, only to be hassled to finish and get out asap to make room for the next suckers!

We DO have fish cakes here which still have the fish in them and are herby and battered. I suppose there isn't much fish in them but I suspect there is at least a smattering!

As for patties, I would have said with my Midlands head on they were flattish small round pie type thingies, pastry top and bottom with a filling of some sort. I have no idea what they would be called up here though. Then again I haven't got to grips with bread buns etc up here yet. I mean, what else would a bun you buy to go with your fish and chips be made from if not bread?

[MKG]

Graye - I'd try Mr. Chips - Whitby's best-kept secret as far as I'm concerned.

(Sorry about the advert folks).

Mike

[John Headstrong]

interesting

"Pattie and chips" from where I am from (north london) is a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaican_patty with chips. (and damn. I have not had one in years!!)


I am now living in the land of "fish suppers" with "salt and sauce"

[Graye]

I certainly will, MKG. We walked past Mr Chips tonight on our way for wonderful pie and mash at Humble Pie and I noticed that small haddock and chips is £2.75. I'll definitely be in there shortly, but NOT for breakfast.

I just asked OH about Barnsley chops (he's Yorkshire born and bred) and he says these originated at the Brooklands Hotel in Barnsley and they were originally mutton although they are now often beef. I thought it was some sort of martial arts move!

He also thinks a pattie is a sort of fish sandwich with sliced potato instead of bread, battered and deep fried. So you must be from a similar area.

[Wombat]

Never heard of the "pattie" thing, but potato scallops (or scollops)? Now your talking!

Nev

[Cloud]

Not heard of or had a Pattie as far as I remember. I'm originally for Nottingham, but spent my early independent years in Bradford. I even had fish and chips in Hull, but obviously was not paying attention.

OH is amused that I call bead buns 'cobs'. I'm not sure I was believed until, we drove past a 'Cob Shop' one day - odd how little things can amuse. Then again OH has lead a sheltered life and has only recently been introduced to the delights of day-glow mushy peas.

[Millymollymandy]

Fish cakes, breaded, with fish in, is what I used to buy from fish and chip shops when I was forced to eat from one. Didn't like the fish. In fact the only good thing about a fish and chip shop (called 'the chippie' where I come from - Bucks) was soggy chips with lashings of malt vinegar in newspaper. It all went downhill when newspaper was stopped. Then when I lived in London the chips were always the night before's leftovers reheated which are VILE so I have never stepped foot in a chippie again, or ever will, as long as I live. So there!

A pattie is something home made in a pattie shape and shallow fried, which can also be called a cake. I think they are pretty much interchangeable.

John I thought you were Scottish!

[Milims]

Living with a Yorkshire man has introduced me to many delights including the Sheffield fish cake - that's the one with the slices of potato with a slice of fish between - mmmmmm yummy! The other great Yorkshire food is Hendersons relish - until last christmas we used to import it Northumberland by the box full as we call at the supermarket on the way to his mums. However, it's recently begun to appear on the shelves this far North. Makes me wonder how far South we can get the Stottie!

[Green Aura]

Ok, as someone originally from the East Midlands, I can concur that patties were never on sale in our chippy. scallops were, as others have said two slices of potato with fish in between battered, ugh. I've never tried one because, even as a child, I couldn't believe the potatoes were actually cooked

Patties, to me are either, Jamake Patties - yummy. Or the name for a homemade burger type thingummy.

Incidentally, in Lancs or at least Gtr Manchester, a scallop is just one slice of spud battered and fried - still though!

And Mike, I'm afraid you're not the only one who makes proper yorkshire pudding - and if you think those stupid puffball things are the real deal it's pistols at dawn

[MKG]

And Mike, I'm afraid you're not the only one who makes proper yorkshire pudding - and if you think those stupid puffball things are the real deal it's pistols at dawn

Not at all. It's the balance between a well-risen crispy top and a soggy bottom. You absolutely MUST have a soggy bottom.

Mike

[Green Aura]

At last, a meeting of minds and soggy bottoms

[John Headstrong]

John I thought you were Scottish!

lol, no, i just live in scotland. I am a Londoner, with the voice to prove it !