Wabbit Wispering

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Post: # 25834Post genie »

i have a wabbit.
shes very cute and fluffy...
dont let that decieve you though..

shes.. EVIL! :shock:

I do reaslise this is the LIVEstock forum!!

need i say anymore..

anybody know any bunny wispering for some bunny lovin' ??

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I love her really, y'know like you love your teenage relatives!! :wink:

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Hi Genie, nevin wanted to breed bunnies for food. But there was a cry of anguish from my two daughters that they were too cute and fluffy to murder and we would probably make the mistake of giving them all names.
Always look for the positive.

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Clover is a cute bunny who i rescued from the pet shop. On asking if i could put up an ad to give a bunny a home, the pet shop offered me one of the 3 maturer rabbits they had upstairs. All clover has known is a cage in a pet shop for 5 monthes. She is a house bunny. I have always had a good connection with animals, but am finding clover more of a challenge than i expected. In her cage she bites, growls, scratches and cries. Once she is out she doesnt make all that fuss. she doesnt like being handled at all. I gotta say we dont really have much of a connection at the moment :(

Does anyone know any bunny psycology? :flower:

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Post: # 25871Post Andy Hamilton »

Not pet psychology - although it is obvious that she is not happy with the cage and as she was in one for 5 months too she might have gone a bit mad. Time for a bigger cage me thinks. get some wood and chicken wire and see if you can knock something up or ask for a cage on freecycle. - You could always get Mark Lewis to give you a hand he's normally pretty good at that sort of thing/
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She's been in too small a cage for too long, probably left without company and is clearly not used to prolonged contact with people.

Do you have anywhere outside with grass? If you do, I'd suggest moving her to an outside hutch with plenty of room and access to grass. If not, at least get her a bigger cage.

You'll need to spend some time socialising her - sit with her, talk to her, feed her treats (parsley, broccoli, pea pods, dandelions, the occasional carrot, spinach and decored, deseeded slices of carrot). When she's become used to you, start touching her while you give her a treat, and gradually build up to picking her up. This will take weeks and possibly months.

However, some rabbits never like being picked up so you should keep that in mind. Rabbits are also curious, so if you hold a piece of parsley out to her and sit very still, she should eventually come over to see what you've got. Don't move suddenly and keep talking in a low voice.

As for biting, rabbits bite for several reasons.

First up, it could be that your rabbit likes you. If it circles you, grunts and occasionally nips you, then it's saying "I love you"!

If it hops straight to you and nips you, then it's probably saying "Feed me now".

If it hops towards something interesting and it bites you on the way, it's saying "Oi! Get out of my way".

If you put your hand straight in front of the rabbit's head, it won't be able to see you and will bite out of self defence or curiosity. Instead, put your hand in to one side, let the rabbit sniff you and then stroke it on the head (but not on the nose as it can't see you).

If the rabbit bites, claws and growls, then it's telling you to back off. It thinks you're an intruder or threat. So back off. Try putting the hutch into a corner (rabbits like having solid things behind them for protection) and then just sit around where the rabbit can see and smell you for a few days (or weeks!).

Other things that can help are to have somewhere for your rabbit to dig. If it's kept inside, trying putting turves in a cat litter tray. The rabbit will get to nibble the grass and dig around to its hearts content.

Oh, and I know a fair bit about rabbits (and rabbit psychology) because I've spent years catching and eating them. (I can often catch them with my bare hands - much to my boys' amazement.) I've also kept rabbits.

Hope this is of some help. And remember, she needs time to adjust to her new surroundings, her new owner and her new life.
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Post: # 25937Post hedgewizard »

Stoney, I've got to know about the bare hands thing. How does this work?

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Post: # 25942Post genie »

Hey man!
Thanks for the reply on that one.
I have had clover for about 6 weeks so far. I always talk to her andapproach her in a way so she can always see my hand. She regularly comes out and rampages around the flat, pooing is a bit of a problem as she doesnt poo, or wee in one place, thus providing me lots of hooving - thankfully i have a well known brand of yellow hoover thats picks it all up!! So its not gonna be easy house training her.
I realise that the cage is the only thing that she has ever had to call her own and I cant blame her for being a bit peeved off when I invade her only space.
I dont have a patch of grass of my own so i shall dig a bit up . My rats (RIP) found the compost I had stashed under my bed and had many hours of fun rolling around in it!I shall get bunny some turf to dig in..

..will work on a bigger cage too although she get to roam the flat most of the time.

I shall keep thee posted Clovers process, I know its not gonna be an easy one. I do like a challenge though.

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love and peace bunny lovers!

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Stonehead wrote: First up, it could be that your rabbit likes you. If it circles you, grunts and occasionally nips you, then it's saying "I love you"!
My hens do this to me. Do you think they love me too? :mrgreen: Actually I hope that's what it means!

Mind you they don't grunt. :lol: Make a sort of 'whoooorrrrrr-ooooorrrrr' sound. Well you know what I mean!!

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Post: # 25969Post Shirley »

LOL I can hear that noise just as you typed it M3... great description... heard ours doing it this morning and just for a minute wondered what on earth it was :lol:
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Post: # 25990Post Boots »

Hi Genie,
Am afraid I'd go a bit back to front on this one... While Stoney's advice makes reasonable sense to us as humans, a rabbit is not human. They have a different 'socialisation' as such.

There is an old saying that you will never catch a rabbit if you chase it.

5 years of confinement is unlikely to be a negative thing by now. It is a familiar thing. A safe thing. I would always ensure the cage is open and accessable, at ground level when ever she's brought out. Actually, a door that permitted her to come out would be better than lifting her out. Allow her to move in and out of it and broaden her own comfort zone, so to speak. Just cos she goes in, doesn't necessarily mean she's finished being out. She may just need to know she can get 'home'.

If she is given regular time to free range, then there would be no need to get another house, either. Your home will become her extended cage.

Rabbits pair off, and a single rabbit will buddy up with a human. In a family situation the rabbit will choose its owner, and that isn't always the one who begged for it, cleans its cage or named it.

While confined in the petshop it is very likely the rabbit was handled by lots of people who did not know how to properly lift a rabbit, so contact may still be hindered by a fear of harm. It is very important that rabbits rear legs be supported when they are lifted, and this often doesn't happen with a child picks it up to cuddle it. They tend to lift and hold them under the front legs which puts huge pressure on their spine. They respond to this pain by scratching and attempting to get back to a horizontal position. The kindest way to hold a rabbit is in the crook of your arm, which encloses and supports its whole body. Remember they choose instinctively to live in warrens. Warrens are very confined spaces. Animals very quickly establish their own trust, and handling has a huge amount to do with this.

Lots of animals communicate with nips or bites, but rarely are they saying anything like what we go on about. They use their bodies to signal needs (and fear). A rabbits teeth need access to solids, to wear them down and maintain gum hygiene and digestion. Many pet rabbits are often just provided mixes that do not meet this need. They will nip and bite to communicate this need. Some may also head butt or rub their heads (mouths) against you. Try saying a sharp no when she nips, and calling her to follow you while you provide a suitable alternative (carrot, piece of bark, cabbage).

Toilet training will also be helped along if you watch for signals that will occur in the right body area :mrgreen: . Prior to letting go, she will enter a routine, which may be short, and might include a certain path she follows before skipping, sitting, squatting, tail wagging or shaking. Watch and you will see it.

I don't think your wee bunny is frightened of you Genie. I think she has quite likely been socialised to a life of constant change, new faces, poor handlers, poor conditions, and she just needs a bit of time to trust that you will be there each day and are willing to interpret her individual communications and meet her needs. I wouldn't keep changing things around her too much. Just hang in there and keep being reliable.

You know those polystyrene boxes that broccolli comes in? If you whack a few inches of soil in there and heavily sprinkle with a parrot mix and keep wet for a few weeks. Then cut a door in one side and leave it out for her. You will have regular boxes of brilliant green feed for her and she will just love getting in there and munching her way through it.

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Post: # 25997Post Stonehead »

Boots wrote:Am afraid I'd go a bit back to front on this one... While Stoney's advice makes reasonable sense to us as humans, a rabbit is not human. They have a different 'socialisation' as such.
Just trying to put it in human terms.
There is an old saying that you will never catch a rabbit if you chase it.
But spend some time getting them used to you, make sure there's plenty of parsley to hand, and sooner or later, one's going to get too curious...
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hedgewizard wrote:Stoney, I've got to know about the bare hands thing. How does this work?
I haven't time to explain in detail now, but you have to get the rabbit used to you, encourage its curiousity and let it get close. Then, GRAB! It takes patience and practice but is cheaper than bullets and less indiscriminate than traps or snares.

And here's one I caught earlier...

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Post: # 26011Post Shirley »

I've only ever seen the bare hands thing done once before and that was with a bloke from Azerbaijan who was working with my ex and on his own in strange place... so we invited him home to our even stranger place and fed him.....

After the meal he wandered outside hitting himself with nettles... saying that it was good medicine.. and talking about lots of the wild flowers and saying that they were good for this that or the other... then he wandered off and caught a rabbit.. and yes.. I was amazed. Just in touch with nature I suppose.
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Post: # 26043Post hedgewizard »

...or just a nutter. :mrgreen:

Stoney, can you elucidate a bit when you have time? We've got oodles of wabbits in the field nearby and I don't have the readies for a rifle right now.

Nettles can be used for a lot of things. The classic one is arthritis (there is a prostaglandin-production-inhibitory-chemical in the sting making it anti-inflammatory), but they're pretty good for neurogenic pain too like sciatica, if you don't mind the discomfort.

Some nettle stings are more severe, Urtica urentissima, for example, is found in Java, and can cause a rash for a whole year and may, in extreme cases, cause death. So don't try this at home, Indonesian boys and girls!

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Post: # 27097Post Selby »

Genie,

You should read, mark and inwardly digest Stoneheads signature.

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