Plum jam advice please

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Plum jam advice please

Post: # 30461Post Millymollymandy »

I've been looking up recipes for damson and greengage (or just plain plum) jam but there are so many different variations of weight of fruit to water to sugar....... :(

My main concern is why do some recipes say to crack the stones and remove the kernels and cook with the fruit?

Is this something to do with flavour or to do with pectin?

It all sounds like a right palaver!

I'm definitately taking the stones out of my fruit because there are lots of bugs in them so no cooking whole then skimming fruit out. :pale:

If anyone has a tried and tested recipe I'd like it please! :flower:

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Post: # 30499Post ina »

Sorry, MMM - no definite recipe either. You are right, everybody seems to do it differently. I hadn't heard about taking the kernels out for plum jam, so I don't think it has anything to do with pectin, more with flavour...

When I was in France, we made a lot of greengage jam. Traditionally, they made it with ordinary sugar, and boiled for quite some time. I bought jam sugar (the stuff with pectin in), used it in the ratio 1:1 with the greengages, and boiled for only 5 minutes. Both types of jam were very nice - their's was mushier, mine more bitty and with more bite.

In Germany, we had more of the blue type plums. I either used the jam sugar (as above), for which you need to cut up the fruit in bits or stick a liquidiser in for a while. Or I made the traditional "Pflaumenmus", for which you need next to no sugar (it works with none at all, but we often used a ratio of 1:10 sugar:plums), and which is boiled on a very low heat (or in the oven) for anything up to 4 hours. A lot of liquid evaporises in that time, so you end up with very little jam in relation to the fruit you started out with - but a very concentrated flavour. I like to add a bit of cinnamon and cloves to both types. My aunt swore by adding a green walnut.

Sorry, this has probably left you with even more options... :oops:
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Post: # 30561Post Millymollymandy »

I've read my book more carefully. :oops: The adding kernels bit is purely because "some people like the nutty flavour". So I won't bother then!


As for the recipes, I think I'll go eeny meeny miney moe!

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Post: # 30579Post hedgewizard »

If you want a green walnut you're welcome to come in my garden, where the grey squirrels will throw them at you.

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Post: # 30603Post funkypixie »

My MIL gave me a pot of plum jam yesterday so I've just been round to blag her recipe for you.

6lb plums/greengages
1pt water (for greengages) 1.5pts water (for plums)
6lb sugar

Destone the fruit and simmer in the water for 30 mins or until soft. Add the sugar and boil until setting temperature achieved.

It is a bit sweet for my liking so I would probably use 4lb sugar to 6lb fruit.

6lb fruit/sugar should produce 10lb jam.

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Post: # 30721Post Millymollymandy »

Thanks a lot!

I wonder why you use less water for greengages?

My book has the same amount of sugar to fruit ratio which I think might be too sweet as well.

I don't really want to muck around with recipes though- I'm not very experienced with jam or jelly and haven't yet made anything successful!

Last year's bramble jelly was rubbery and the 11 jars I made yesterday are runny!! :mrgreen:

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Post: # 32347Post *stuffed* »

When weighing plums for jam do you weigh before or after removing the stones, it must make quite a difference if you have a lot.
Sorry if that is the dumbest question you've ever heard...Jam newbie here! :roll: :oops:

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Post: # 32348Post Hepsibah »

Plum jam is my absolute favourite and I use my own recipe for it. I stone the plums before weighing them, put them in a heavy based pan and add 'some' water. That means not quite enough to cover the plums. Cook the plums til they are soft and the skins have all curled off them then add the same weight of warmed sugar to the pan. Dissolve the sugar slowly then boil it fast til it reaches setting point. I don't use a thermometer, I either do the blob of jam on a cooled plate or I lift the spoon and turn it round and round over the pan and see if the mixture falls in a flake (setting point) or if it just drips off (boil it some more).
I have never had a failed batch using this recipe and it's really gorgeous.
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Post: # 32366Post Masco&Bongo »

Do you remove the skins then, or leave them on?

Thanks!

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Post: # 32388Post Hepsibah »

I leave the skins in the jam but you could skim them out as they fall off the flesh of the plums if you prefer.
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Post: # 32462Post Millymollymandy »

Well I made my greengage jam and ended up with 11 jam jars of it, two of which are not sterilised cos I wasn't expecting so much! I don't want these huge amounts I keep getting, I'm running out of jars and I can't find any jars or preserving jars in the supermarkets!!!

I must note in that book of mine to half all recipes in future. I have got year's worth of jam and jelly now, and we hardly ever eat the stuff!

P. S. I still never reach setting point from either of the three tests, have to boil for ages until I get so bored I give up, but my jellies were perfect and the jam seems to have thickened although I only ate what was left in the bottom of the pan.

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Post: # 32468Post Masco&Bongo »

I did 12 8oz jars of Victoria Plum jam yesterday... :cheers:

Seemed to take ages to get to setting point (my wrinkle test was rubbish!)
And I've manged to get burnt sugar all over the top of my ceramic hob :oops:

We're giving most of it away as part of a homemade Christmas hamper, but since I still have about 20lbs of plums left, I'm making crumble tonight and probably more jam in a while.

Thanks for all the help with recipes etc...

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Post: # 32614Post Shirley »

What else can I do other than jam... ??

Just picked a load off the tree (well actually my daughter did - thanks Laura!) and I would like to know what the very best thing you can make with plums is.

I did think of a chutney but is that a waste of what appear to be really nice and tasty plums? Perhaps we should just eat them.
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Post: # 32623Post Masco&Bongo »

Check out UK TV Food's website - they have a few cake/crumble recipes and also one for Plum Vodka (made along the same lines as Damson Gin etc - fruit, sugar and alcohol), and also the BBC Food website.

They have pretty good search engines on them for ingredients searches.

I'm going to make some plums up for crumble and freeze them, then just defrost as necessary... we can enjoy crumble in the deepest depths of December then! :wink:

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Post: # 32690Post Millymollymandy »

Glad I'm not the only one who is plum tuckered out! :lol:

I've made damson chutney and greengage jam. We are currently ploughing our way through an enormous plum and apple crumble, I've semi-stewed up loads for the freezer and I'm eating them raw till they're coming out of my ears.

I also have lovely purple plums too, I just thank god that the only big tree is the greengage as I have 'manageable' amounts from the damson and purple plum tree; more than about 5kg per tree just goes to waste (and attracts the wasps :cry: ). Strangely the birds aren't eating them this year?

It's just a shame they don't last long like apples. :(

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