Container potatoes - hype or not?

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Container potatoes - hype or not?

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This is my third year growing potatoes in containers. I've had them in all manner of things of all manner of shapes and sizes. But I've never achieved anything like the yields often claimed for this method (well, there's a surprise! :lol: ). In fact, although I've had halms growing healthily four feet above the seed potato which started them off, I have found (invariably) that I get nothing whatsoever from over one foot above the seed. So, as far as I can see, earthing up above that one-foot point is a waste of compost and effort.

I don't think I'm doing anything too wrong - the plants are watered and fed regularly. And I do get a reasonable yield from the productive foot. But I think that from now, that's as far as I'll be prepared to go.

So - am I wrong? Is the "chase your potato up the bag" method just so much hot air? What's your experience?

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Post: # 157182Post Derry »

this is how we're growing our spuds this year, and i cant really see how it works either? when theyre harvested ill let you know =D

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I also had the feeling that I didn't get more from the ones I earthed up higher (in bags) than the ones in smaller containers - buckets or so. Haven't done it often enough to judge it properly, though.
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Post: # 157186Post Odsox »

I have to say that I have never seriously tried growing potatoes in containers except for Christmas ones in a bucket, but I have never seen the logic in effectively burying potato stems and leaves.
I've read the advertising literature for potato barrels that a about four feet tall and are supposed to supply masses of spuds by virtue of a four foot vertical stem.
So if, as you say, growing a four foot stem with only tubers forming in the bottom foot then that other 3 foot is wasted growth, probably at the expense of more tubers.

I have always understood (maybe wrongly) that "earthing up" potatoes in the garden was just to ensure that swelling tubers had ample room and could not break through to the surface and subsequently turn green and inedible.

But you must be doing something wrong because surely the manufacturers of potato barrels are telling the truth, aren't they. :lol:
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SusieGee wrote:I have absolutely no idea if this is fact or not, but just surmising - could it be that the haulms have to reach full height in order to give the potatoes enough time to mature and if you, for instance, harvested them when they got to the 1 foot height the potatoes would in fact be immature? Just a thought :roll:
Not really Susie, if you grow them in your garden they only grow about one foot high, you just leave them alone to do what they do best ... grow and mature. :mrgreen:
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Post: # 157196Post MKG »

Well, well. I've just checked the RHS site. I wasn't too surprised to read that they advise the use of a container about a foot wide and a foot deep.

But surely there's someone here who's managed to get one of those fantastic bumper harvests?

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Post: # 157255Post Clara »

I certainly had potatoes above a foot when I did it last year, but didn't get a massive crop though. I think the point of earthing up is to encourage the production of side shoots, which then grow tubers. I seem to remember reading somewhere that the type of seed potato you use is important - maincrop rather than earlies, or vice versa :oops: :roll: - worth looking into.
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Clara wrote:I think the point of earthing up is to encourage the production of side shoots, which then grow tubers
I agree this sounds feasible, but is it true ?

I just looked at the haulm from the earlies I dug this afternoon and there are no side shoots at all. I can see the point on the stem where it originally came out of the soil and I can see the mark on the stem where I earthed it up to (about 3" higher), and all I achieved is to make the stem dirty.
All the tuber bearing roots were exactly where you would expect them to be .. right at the base.
Maybe it's different for maincrops, but I will have to wait until October to find out.

There are more spuds per root that the two of us can eat at one meal, although that's not a very scientific measurement :lol:
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Post: # 157278Post MKG »

I've been chasing this subject on the net all evening (I need to get a life :( ). Interesting results.

The only mentions I can find for huge crop claims are from sites who want to sell you something - the sellers of potato barrels etc - and isn't it fascinating that the lift-up panels on a potato barrel are never more than a foot high? There are, however, lots of people without an axe to grind propounding the container method, but every one I've found so far mentions smaller containers. Even the "grow 'em in tyres" brigade don't advocate over three tyres (and with the seed potatoes planted halfway up the bottom tyre, how much height does that leave?). Bob Flowerdew states that earlies will grow well in containers but you won't get an increased yield (so you were right, Clara :lol: ) but you will get an increased yield with maincrops. However, that increase is compared with not earthing up in containers - in open ground, the yield will be even heavier.

I am rapidly becoming convinced that one seed potato, in a normal growing season, will grow more potatoes in the single cubic foot above it. I am also becoming convinced that the "development of side shoots" argument is biologically true but unattainable (in any meaningful way) in practice. Those side shoots nearer the top of the plant would need to be left alone for much longer to develop into a usable potato. I planted some Swift this year (and yes, they're bloody fast) and even they took six weeks to get to the top of the container. I assume that at least another six weeks would be needed for the top layer of developing potatoes to reach usable size - 12 weeks in all, so why did I bother planting Swift?

And to top it all, once you're in the area of keeping potatoes growing for that long (or even longer), the threat of blight is getting more and more pressing.

Ah well - the Great Potato Debate will no doubt continue and, as is my wont, I'll probably have changed my mind again by tomorrow.

But in the meantime, I'll be looking for 18" containers, I think.

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Post: # 157341Post Zaf »

I've never had much success in containers, the only time I use them now is if I have a few seed potatoes that wont fit in the raised beds and no room anywhere else

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Post: # 157414Post Thomzo »

As far as I can see, the biggest advantage of containers is that you get ALL the potatoes out and don't have loads of volunteers appearing the next year. I planted up my raised bed with potatoes last year, dug it over thoroughly to get them all out and then put the chickens on it as well. I still have loads of spuds coming up this year.

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Thomzo wrote:I still have loads of spuds coming up this year.
Yes me too, loads of them this year for some reason.
I dug every last one out in the autumn, then got another bushel when I dug that plot in the spring and there are STILL about a dozen large healthy potato plants in that plot, and I'm too mean to pull them up now as I look on them as a freebie.
The problem with container growing is watering them during dry spells as well as having to provide a container/soil/compost.
Fine if you have no land but I can't see why you would want to do it otherwise (except for Christmas ones in a bucket)
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Post: # 157501Post Peggy Sue »

Oh I know what you mean, even the beds that were potatoes 3 years go and have been dug, redug, grown in, harvested, redug etc etc- STILL bear potato sprouts :angryfire:

We did have a go at one bag last year, it was a sort of novelty try and did work so I guess it's possible in colder weather with it being near the kitchen door. Can't say the harvest was astounding- just OK.

This year my OH has decided to re-plant a few 'mother' spuds after we have dug and harvested them in an attempt to have spuds for Xmas- one of his friends told him to. I don't get this really and am worried about blight but he really wants to give it a go- anyone tried it?
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Peggy Sue wrote:This year my OH has decided to re-plant a few 'mother' spuds after we have dug and harvested them in an attempt to have spuds for Xmas- one of his friends told him to. I don't get this really and am worried about blight but he really wants to give it a go- anyone tried it?
Yes, many times.
Mine were in a bucket that was stood in the greenhouse (old black builders bucket with holes in the bottom)
What you need to do is leave one root of earlies undug so that there mature. Then dig them about July and chit as normal and plant about September.
If you have no greenhouse and if you use a bucket or something with handles, you can maybe bring it indoors if bad or cold weather threatens.
Keep them on the dry side and blight shouldn't be a problem.
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Post: # 157523Post Peggy Sue »

Thanks Odsox- he ahd put them stright into the ground again from the first lots of new pots- might ahve to steer him along these lines!
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