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Millymollymandy wrote:Can you explain this one to me please?

When I was last in the UK you had to pay a lot of money even on the NHS for dental work.
£98 a session for root canal treatment to two teeth on the NHS (£294 for the three sessions in all), £1,200 for the same work done privately.

We can just afford the first, but not the second.

As for the emergency dental hospital, yes, there is one in Aberdeen but it has limited hours and also covers the Highlands (which doesn't have one) so it gets a lot of patients. It is staffed by students getting in their practice, but you still get turned away as there are always more people needing treatment than dentists and trainee dentists.

And why should we sell the croft to pay for dental treatment that we've both paid out a bundle for in National Insurance and taxes?

I wouldn't have such a problem if we paid less NI or tax, and were expected to go private. Or got a rebate of NI if we went private. But when you're expected to pay NI and then again if you want treatment any time this century, it's outrageous. Especially when the NHS treatment is often - but not always - second class.

I was lucky when I had to have two severely impacted wisdom teeth extracted a few years ago as the NHS in England said it could be up to six months. I mentioned it in passing to my then boss, who said "oh, I think you're now on the managerial package so you get free private dental".

Free dental turned out to mean a private hospital that was better than most five-star hotels, one of the top oral and maxillofacial surgeons in the UK (scores of publications to his name, a dozen awards for surgical advances etc), and the best pre-op and post-op medical care I've experienced anywhere in the world. While I think some of it was a bit OTT, I do think that level of care and concern for the patient should be the standard for the NHS. (Three star hotel and a middle of the road dental surgeon would have been fine!)
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I've got to go to the Maxillofacial unit at some point now to get two wisdom teeth removed.

Apparently, my teeth need work, so they won't take me on on the NHS because i need too much work - they wonder why!

I tried pointing out to them that i pay my taxes and my NI. I also tried pointing out that my teeth wouldn't be in the state they're in if i could afford to go regularly, but they didn't really care.

They also joined the list of dentists that don't believe the anaesthetic doesn't work - she told me to take it up with the hospital.

Wjhy oh why oh why is it that the medical 'profession' seem to never ever take on board what a patient is saying? I've had so many problems because the doctir/dentist in front of me doesn't believe what i#m saying! The anaesthetic doesn't work, it does not touch the nerve and make it numb, it still hurts like hell! I had the same problem when i had repeated earinfections - i went to a specialist in the end and he laughed at the GP - i'd had one long ear infection for a year!!

Grr...sorry for ranting again, but i'm still in pain and my fuse is getting shorter and shorter by the hour...

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((((((So sorry fee))))))

Bloody 'proffesionals' I know exactly what you mean, they will not listen, they don't seem to realise that it is you who pays their wages, maybe thats why you get treated better privately, it is more of a direct link between the customer and the pay packet :roll:

Hey, they didn't even believe me when I was in labour, what hope have we got :roll:

On a more possitive note the surgeon who take out my wisdom teeth was lovely, and the anesthetic didn't work properly but she kept me calm and relaxed and I didn't feel much. Plus you have the option of going under so you could be out of it for the whole thing
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Good luck, I hope you find some way of dealing with the pain, it is the worst type :cry:
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Post: # 64129Post the.fee.fairy »

I'm sticking to the Paracetamol/ibruprofen mix and its working at the moment. I've got antibiotics to take for the next week to take the infection down too, so it should be ok.

I can't believe they didn't believe you when you were in labour!! Mind you, they said the same to my mum (i was 9 weeks early) - they told her that it was impossible that she was in labour...then i arrived!

It seems odd to me that a profession that is supposed to be treating symptoms doesn't believe someone when they are presenting them.

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the.fee.fairy wrote: I can't believe they didn't believe you when you were in labour!! Mind you, they said the same to my mum (i was 9 weeks early) - they told her that it was impossible that she was in labour...then i arrived!
I was 2 weeks over due and they told me my contactions wern't regular enough (acording to their stupid bloody machine) then I told them the baby is coming NOW and the midwife went off to find me a sleeping tablet :shock: Idiots... my baby was born 40 mins later :mrgreen:
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Post: # 64224Post Millymollymandy »

Thanks Stoney - I hadn't realised there was quite such a difference in price for that kind of treatment.

Funnily enough the pain I was talking about in my earlier post was after session 1 of a two session root canal treatment....... :(

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I don't think i could handle a 2 session root canal!!
I've only ever had one root canal, and i had to be knocked out for it - i gave the dentist a choice, knock me out, or i'll knock you out. He took the easy option :bom:

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interesting about the anaesthetic not working tho - you are not a red-head under that purple are you fee?

I always need alot more than they think and I can still feel some pain

then once when I was having a dodgy mole removed by my gp, he complained jokingly that I was a typical red-head.. always need more anaesthetic to work... when I questioned this, he said it was a known fact. I tried to get him to tell my dentist.....
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the.fee.fairy wrote:I don't think i could handle a 2 session root canal!!
I've only ever had one root canal, and i had to be knocked out for it - i gave the dentist a choice, knock me out, or i'll knock you out. He took the easy option :bom:
I had the first two sessions (to open up the teeth and clear everything out) but it was on the third that the dentist decided it was beyond her. So, I now have two temporary dressings covering holes in my teeth and the pain just keeps on. I still have the infection as well. Oh, and that last treatment was back at the beginning of May 07 while I've had the abscess since January 06.
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red wrote:interesting about the anaesthetic not working tho - you are not a red-head under that purple are you fee?

I always need alot more than they think and I can still feel some pain

then once when I was having a dodgy mole removed by my gp, he complained jokingly that I was a typical red-head.. always need more anaesthetic to work... when I questioned this, he said it was a known fact. I tried to get him to tell my dentist.....
Nope, i'm a celtic brunette! Its a family thing - my cousins don't go numb anywhere above the upper jaw. We only found that out when one of them cut his head open and ha to have it stitched.


stonehead wrote: the.fee.fairy wrote:
I don't think i could handle a 2 session root canal!!
I've only ever had one root canal, and i had to be knocked out for it - i gave the dentist a choice, knock me out, or i'll knock you out. He took the easy option


I had the first two sessions (to open up the teeth and clear everything out) but it was on the third that the dentist decided it was beyond her. So, I now have two temporary dressings covering holes in my teeth and the pain just keeps on. I still have the infection as well. Oh, and that last treatment was back at the beginning of May 07 while I've had the abscess since January 06.

I'd be a pliers stage by now...i can't stand tooth pain! Any other pain i can deal with (except maybe earache) but tooth pain is the worst! Its that knowing that if you couold grit your teeth (pun unintended!!) and pull, you could get the problem over and done with!

Can you not go to a teaching hospital somewhere? They might be glad to see you as an example. I'm going to ask when i go to have mine taken out whether there's a teachign hospital near here - it might be good for the students to learn what to do when the anaesthetic doesn't work. I wouldn't mind going through it if it's going to help someone else's education - most importantly, if it helps someone learn so they know how to treat someone else n the future.

I'm sure these painkillers are affecting my mental abilities though - i left work without my purse last night. I got to the bus stop and had to ring my mum to come and get me because i didn't have the money to get on the bus. I'm sure my brain's slowing down, i keep feeling like i can't make decisions, or answer questions, or do anything at normal speed. Can't wait for the pain and the infection to go down so i can get back to normal. The antibiotics are playing merry hell with my stomach too, but the dentist said that they would.

Ho Hum. i'm still not convinced that its going to make me go to the dentists any more regularly!!

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Post: # 64259Post Thomzo »

Oh Fee, you poor thing. Pain does affect your brain. I bet you're not sleeping well either so you are probably exhausted.

Stony - I can't believe that they've kept you waiting for so long. I do hope something gets sorted soon.

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You're right - i am exhausted!! I keep thinking that i've slept all night, then i remember that i got up at 3:30 to take painkillers, and then was woken up at 8:30 by someone with one of those noisy garden chipper thingies, so i haven't really slept that well after all.

I work til 11pm, so things are a bit hectic!! I'm absolutely shattered now.
Still, at least i'll get a lay in on Sunday!!

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